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Wed 10/09/03 at 12:09
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"Wanking Mong"
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Since I was a teenager, I've been fascinated with the idea of faith (and yes, I was something of a geeky teen...). At first, it was religious faith that interested me. I couldn't for the life of me understand why otherwise sensible and rational people would live their lives according to a set of principles that evolved over a thousand years ago, the lynchpin of which was a mythical father figure of who's existence there is no proof at all. I wanted to know what drove these people to their conclusion that a particular faith was best suited to them, what made them reject the alternative faiths on offer, and most of all I wanted to know whether these gullible fools would be interested in buying these magic beans I had for sale.

But as time has passed, I've thought about faith a little more (which just goes to show how boring life can be in Newcastle) and I've gradually and belatedly come to realise that faith isn't just limited to religion. We are constantly encouraged to show faith in, for example, our employers who have our best interests at heart, so have faith and don't ask too many questions about why pay rises are heading the same way as the Dodo. Or our government; Tony Blair and Dubya in particular are fond of using their opportunist religious principles to support their calls for us to have faith in them, so don't look too closely at what they're doing because it'll all work out for your benefit, honest. Unsurprisingly, we in the west are now completely cynical about having faith in anything; in general we greet whatever new soul-sapping announcement is guaranteed to make ones life that little bit less enjoyable with black humour and a wry smile. On the plus side, this means that religion no longer has the influence it once did on everyday life. On the down side, it means that we are losing the most important item of faith that we have; faith in ourselves.

Of course, I say that we're losing that aspect of faith; it has never exactly been widespread anyway. If one looks back through history, we've never really been encouraged to have any faith in ourselves as individuals. It has always suited whoever was on the top of the social heap to make us think that, in order to make anything out of our lives, we would need to rely on those in charge. The message has always been "Trust in your leaders, because if you don't then the world will turn to sloppy dogsh!t". We're indoctrinated with that belief and have been since the dawn of civilisation. Because of that, it is a very special person indeed who has enough faith in himself or herself to take chances in their life and follow a different path from the norm. And, human nature being what it is, those rare and precious few invariably take up a position in what could loosely be termed the ruling classes of society and become part of the same system that tries to keep people down.

Now, I'm not enough of an anarchist to follow this train of thought through to the conclusion "We need no leaders if we all have faith in ourselves". Frankly, although I think the idea that we could live in a world without leaders is a lovely one, human nature being what it is, we'd almost certainly find ourselves in a situation that closely resembled hell on earth. But on the other hand (and this is a very naive thing to say), surely having large numbers of self-confident people who are willing to think for themselves is good for society as a whole? How can it profit a government to keep the population timid and meek, accepting of their lot in life no matter how indifferent it may be?

The obvious answer is, of course, because the ruling classes are not interested in anyone other than themselves. The general populace needs to be kept fearful and paranoid in order to keep them in power? No problem; just look at the constant propaganda we see in the media telling us to be afraid of bombs and of evil terrorists. Look at the Anthrax scare in America ("No, please no! Not anthrax!! Not the disease that is easily curable by anti-biotics!! Nooooooooo!!!"), or the pointless evacuation exercise that took place in London last weekend. We would seem to faced with a contradiction; the people we elect to power to serve our interests will gladly sacrifice those interests in order to remain in power. All because we don't have enough faith in ourselves to stand up and say "Actually, I'm not happy with the way things are being done." We fear being ridiculed for doing so, and that fear and lack of faith keeps us paralysed and allows those fortunate enough to have a measure of control over their lives to extend that control over ours.

Not surprisingly, this state of affairs has led to discontent. In particular we are seeing that discontent among the people of the Islamic world, who have long been burdened with oppressive and unrepresentative governments who use religious faith as a tool for political control. To put things in perspective, I'm sat here complaining about the lack of control I am afforded in my life, but at least I am not in danger of being imprisoned by my government for doing so. Yet how is this discontent being expressed (or at least, how is the majority of that discontent being expressed)? By putting faith in organisations that remain equally unrepresentative of their supporters and have their own agenda which invariably involves replacing the current ruling classes of their society with the leadership of the organisation. This is true of Al-Quaida in all it's many and varied forms, of Hamas, of Islamic Jihad, of the ultra-violent Islamic rebels of North Africa. All of these so-called revolutionaries are equally dependant on discouraging people from having any faith in themselves, and encouraging them to believe that their problems can only be dealt with by the leaders of the organisation.

In abusing the trust of the very people whom they are meant to serve, governments are effectively sowing the seeds of their own destruction. We're encouraged to have faith in our leaders, but our leaders constantly lie to us and are visibly and demonstratably self-serving buckets of bullbollocks. However, thanks to centuries of being told we shouldn't rely on ourselves, we turn to organisations that encourage us to have faith in them instead, and they in turn abuse that trust to achieve their own aims. Isn't it time to stop placing all of our hopes in groups who couldn't care less about us, and only view us as a means to gain power and control over their own destiny? Isn't it time we started to think a little more of ourselves, of our own potential, and act on it? Or will we simply wait for the group of our choice to tell us that it's okay to have a little self-belief? Time will tell I suppose, but I can only hope that we start to believe in ourselves long before there is no other option.
Wed 10/09/03 at 18:25
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"possibly impossible"
Posts: 24,985
hm. Got to have Faith.

Oh, we're not talking about Buffy now? What? Sod off to the movies forum? Well, I never...


Faith, like love and hate, is a non-descript word for something that exists in the mind and therefore you can debate it until the cows come home, the same way as saying that love is just a series of complex chemicals, doesn't change what it does or how it affects people.

The abuse of faith is the worrying aspect of this, but it does not change Faith itself, just how it can be manipulated.

hm...
Wed 10/09/03 at 16:57
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
Nah, it hasn't made much visible difference tbh. Physically, I feel lighter, but that's about it.
Wed 10/09/03 at 16:54
Regular
"Infantalised Forums"
Posts: 23,089
So you look like a skinnier bummer stormtrooper now?
Cool
Wed 10/09/03 at 16:52
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
I've lost almost a stone since that was taken....
Wed 10/09/03 at 16:50
Regular
"twothousandandtits"
Posts: 11,024
Just lose a little weight IB, then they'll flock to you.
Wed 10/09/03 at 16:26
Regular
"Wanking Mong"
Posts: 4,884
Insane Bartender wrote:
> I assure you, I can conjure up far more disturbing things that I could
> photograph myself doing.
>
> Try to imagine a male g-string, a pot of yoghurt, a length of rope
> and a Darth Vader helmet?
>
> Disturbed? You should be.

Heh. Nothing homoerotic going on there then, no sir-ee!
Wed 10/09/03 at 15:50
Regular
"Brownium Motion"
Posts: 4,100
NO!

Don't do it. In all that's sweet and just in the world, don't taint the Star Wars name with your frightening image that would render all of us deaf, dumb and mute and in a near catatonic state.

To extol the virtues of a g-string wearing Vader is more than I can bear. Maybe I've found something I can emotionally respond to?
Wed 10/09/03 at 15:44
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
I assure you, I can conjure up far more disturbing things that I could photograph myself doing.

Try to imagine a male g-string, a pot of yoghurt, a length of rope and a Darth Vader helmet?

Disturbed? You should be.
Wed 10/09/03 at 15:40
Regular
"Brownium Motion"
Posts: 4,100
Hmm...seeing you nonchalantly supping on a cup of tea is quite unnerving.
Wed 10/09/03 at 15:16
Regular
"Lisan al-Gaib"
Posts: 7,093
Insane Bartender wrote:
> Suspect, presume and surmise what you will. But don't you think if I
> was that serious, I would have spent £400 on a full set of
> stormtrooper armour, rather instead pump a similar amount of money
> into learning to scuba dive?

Ohhh, hark at you. Lighten up.

http://www.geocities.com/gazrip/ images/trooper_gay.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/gazrip/ images/trooper_jedi.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/gazrip/ images/trooper_read.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/gazrip/ images/trooper_tea.jpg

(cool video collection BTW, but is that “Father of the Bride” I see in there?!?!?!? For shame! Still, leaving Las Vegas counters that.)

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