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Sympathy you all know what it means. Well you feel it for people BUT do you feel it for game characters? What I mean is, when your blowing a Nazi's head off on Medal of Honour do you feel it? Or even when you run down a policeman on GTA3 do you feel it? Your objective maybe to kill the ‘Boss’ but when you’ve beaten him and he’s dead or injured helplessly on the floor what do you feel then?
As much as people may like killing people, blowing them up ect… do they have the courage to see a real dead body? I bet they don’t. Yes it’s very different from a virtual image of a person to a real living breathing person but I think you should still feel sympathy. Do you see the TV screen as a bunch of pixels put together or do you feel more emotional and drawn in by the gaming experience?
I know that softhearted people are really taken in by it. All the girls give a classic “Awwww poor baby” when Meemee takes a bad turn and falls off in monkey ball. But in this case I can’t stop laughing and do it again. Did I just say I play video games with girls? Cool! But I do feel something for the enemies suffering and whimpering on the field when you hit them with some mustard gas. Well I shouldn’t be playing 18 rated games I guess.
So what goes through your mind when you cut a cave mans head off with that disk thing in turok or you kill the medics in red faction? If not that you kill cops for fun and snipe out old ladies walking home with their shopping in GTA3 (De Ja Vu). Do you feel sympathy and commiserate? Feel evil and continue torturing? Get annoyed by the square faces and turn off your PS1? Feel proud and ponder what else you could do? Whatever you are thinking of there is a little evil and pity in all of us.
And if you are like Snuggly and stay up all night decapitating guards for stoopid dog tags then why do you do it? Well yeah, it’s fun, duhhhh, but why is it fun to kill people? Do you feel a little sympathy or guilt when the guards make those fish noises while struggling for life? Do you enjoy it? Do you feel that you have to do it but don’t want to? Or are you narrow-minded and don’t notice them?
With all the next-gen consoles and constantly improving gaming how far will gaming go in the future? Will it become so realistic that we won’t want to play these games? Well that’s a bit too far but will we feel a lot more sympathy to the people in games? Will they be such good imitations that we will start feeling less for real people? Violence and video gaming is already being linked together these days! The future is full of questions (like this post :P) and we will just how to wait and see how attitude towards gaming changes everyday life.
Personally, I can imagine cut scenes in games like Metal Gear Solid becoming even more like movies. Often, people can leave movies feeling really strange, that tingle at the back of your neck. Games characters could easily begin to gain as much sympathy as the movie star.
However, this is something games developers need to think about. If someone is upset or confused by a cut scene, could this effect their concentration for the game? Nobody wants to be thinking about a previous encounter with the bad guy, while they’re fighting the next character. In movies, there is time for sympathy, but in games there just doesn’t seem like there can be. Maybe in the cut scenes for a short time, but it would be important for it not to have a lasting impression on you.
But most importantly, what do *you* think? Would sympathy for games characters effect how you view them? If you did have sympathy for those little old women in GTA3, could you still kill them and complete the game? Do you think we have time for sympathy in games?
Cheers
- BS (never won gad)
As much as people may like killing people, blowing them up ect… do they have the courage to see a real dead body? I bet they don’t. Yes it’s very different from a virtual image of a person to a real living breathing person but I think you should still feel sympathy. Do you see the TV screen as a bunch of pixels put together or do you feel more emotional and drawn in by the gaming experience?
I know that softhearted people are really taken in by it. All the girls give a classic “Awwww poor baby” when Meemee takes a bad turn and falls off in monkey ball. But in this case I can’t stop laughing and do it again. Did I just say I play video games with girls? Cool! But I do feel something for the enemies suffering and whimpering on the field when you hit them with some mustard gas. Well I shouldn’t be playing 18 rated games I guess.
So what goes through your mind when you cut a cave mans head off with that disk thing in turok or you kill the medics in red faction? If not that you kill cops for fun and snipe out old ladies walking home with their shopping in GTA3 (De Ja Vu). Do you feel sympathy and commiserate? Feel evil and continue torturing? Get annoyed by the square faces and turn off your PS1? Feel proud and ponder what else you could do? Whatever you are thinking of there is a little evil and pity in all of us.
And if you are like Snuggly and stay up all night decapitating guards for stoopid dog tags then why do you do it? Well yeah, it’s fun, duhhhh, but why is it fun to kill people? Do you feel a little sympathy or guilt when the guards make those fish noises while struggling for life? Do you enjoy it? Do you feel that you have to do it but don’t want to? Or are you narrow-minded and don’t notice them?
With all the next-gen consoles and constantly improving gaming how far will gaming go in the future? Will it become so realistic that we won’t want to play these games? Well that’s a bit too far but will we feel a lot more sympathy to the people in games? Will they be such good imitations that we will start feeling less for real people? Violence and video gaming is already being linked together these days! The future is full of questions (like this post :P) and we will just how to wait and see how attitude towards gaming changes everyday life.
Personally, I can imagine cut scenes in games like Metal Gear Solid becoming even more like movies. Often, people can leave movies feeling really strange, that tingle at the back of your neck. Games characters could easily begin to gain as much sympathy as the movie star.
However, this is something games developers need to think about. If someone is upset or confused by a cut scene, could this effect their concentration for the game? Nobody wants to be thinking about a previous encounter with the bad guy, while they’re fighting the next character. In movies, there is time for sympathy, but in games there just doesn’t seem like there can be. Maybe in the cut scenes for a short time, but it would be important for it not to have a lasting impression on you.
But most importantly, what do *you* think? Would sympathy for games characters effect how you view them? If you did have sympathy for those little old women in GTA3, could you still kill them and complete the game? Do you think we have time for sympathy in games?
Cheers
- BS (never won gad)
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Sympathy you all know what it means. Well you feel it for people BUT do you feel it for game characters? What I mean is, when your blowing a Nazi's head off on Medal of Honour do you feel it? Or even when you run down a policeman on GTA3 do you feel it? Your objective maybe to kill the ‘Boss’ but when you’ve beaten him and he’s dead or injured helplessly on the floor what do you feel then?
As much as people may like killing people, blowing them up ect… do they have the courage to see a real dead body? I bet they don’t. Yes it’s very different from a virtual image of a person to a real living breathing person but I think you should still feel sympathy. Do you see the TV screen as a bunch of pixels put together or do you feel more emotional and drawn in by the gaming experience?
I know that softhearted people are really taken in by it. All the girls give a classic “Awwww poor baby” when Meemee takes a bad turn and falls off in monkey ball. But in this case I can’t stop laughing and do it again. Did I just say I play video games with girls? Cool! But I do feel something for the enemies suffering and whimpering on the field when you hit them with some mustard gas. Well I shouldn’t be playing 18 rated games I guess.
So what goes through your mind when you cut a cave mans head off with that disk thing in turok or you kill the medics in red faction? If not that you kill cops for fun and snipe out old ladies walking home with their shopping in GTA3 (De Ja Vu). Do you feel sympathy and commiserate? Feel evil and continue torturing? Get annoyed by the square faces and turn off your PS1? Feel proud and ponder what else you could do? Whatever you are thinking of there is a little evil and pity in all of us.
And if you are like Snuggly and stay up all night decapitating guards for stoopid dog tags then why do you do it? Well yeah, it’s fun, duhhhh, but why is it fun to kill people? Do you feel a little sympathy or guilt when the guards make those fish noises while struggling for life? Do you enjoy it? Do you feel that you have to do it but don’t want to? Or are you narrow-minded and don’t notice them?
With all the next-gen consoles and constantly improving gaming how far will gaming go in the future? Will it become so realistic that we won’t want to play these games? Well that’s a bit too far but will we feel a lot more sympathy to the people in games? Will they be such good imitations that we will start feeling less for real people? Violence and video gaming is already being linked together these days! The future is full of questions (like this post :P) and we will just how to wait and see how attitude towards gaming changes everyday life.
Personally, I can imagine cut scenes in games like Metal Gear Solid becoming even more like movies. Often, people can leave movies feeling really strange, that tingle at the back of your neck. Games characters could easily begin to gain as much sympathy as the movie star.
However, this is something games developers need to think about. If someone is upset or confused by a cut scene, could this effect their concentration for the game? Nobody wants to be thinking about a previous encounter with the bad guy, while they’re fighting the next character. In movies, there is time for sympathy, but in games there just doesn’t seem like there can be. Maybe in the cut scenes for a short time, but it would be important for it not to have a lasting impression on you.
But most importantly, what do *you* think? Would sympathy for games characters effect how you view them? If you did have sympathy for those little old women in GTA3, could you still kill them and complete the game? Do you think we have time for sympathy in games?
Cheers
- BS (never won gad)
As much as people may like killing people, blowing them up ect… do they have the courage to see a real dead body? I bet they don’t. Yes it’s very different from a virtual image of a person to a real living breathing person but I think you should still feel sympathy. Do you see the TV screen as a bunch of pixels put together or do you feel more emotional and drawn in by the gaming experience?
I know that softhearted people are really taken in by it. All the girls give a classic “Awwww poor baby” when Meemee takes a bad turn and falls off in monkey ball. But in this case I can’t stop laughing and do it again. Did I just say I play video games with girls? Cool! But I do feel something for the enemies suffering and whimpering on the field when you hit them with some mustard gas. Well I shouldn’t be playing 18 rated games I guess.
So what goes through your mind when you cut a cave mans head off with that disk thing in turok or you kill the medics in red faction? If not that you kill cops for fun and snipe out old ladies walking home with their shopping in GTA3 (De Ja Vu). Do you feel sympathy and commiserate? Feel evil and continue torturing? Get annoyed by the square faces and turn off your PS1? Feel proud and ponder what else you could do? Whatever you are thinking of there is a little evil and pity in all of us.
And if you are like Snuggly and stay up all night decapitating guards for stoopid dog tags then why do you do it? Well yeah, it’s fun, duhhhh, but why is it fun to kill people? Do you feel a little sympathy or guilt when the guards make those fish noises while struggling for life? Do you enjoy it? Do you feel that you have to do it but don’t want to? Or are you narrow-minded and don’t notice them?
With all the next-gen consoles and constantly improving gaming how far will gaming go in the future? Will it become so realistic that we won’t want to play these games? Well that’s a bit too far but will we feel a lot more sympathy to the people in games? Will they be such good imitations that we will start feeling less for real people? Violence and video gaming is already being linked together these days! The future is full of questions (like this post :P) and we will just how to wait and see how attitude towards gaming changes everyday life.
Personally, I can imagine cut scenes in games like Metal Gear Solid becoming even more like movies. Often, people can leave movies feeling really strange, that tingle at the back of your neck. Games characters could easily begin to gain as much sympathy as the movie star.
However, this is something games developers need to think about. If someone is upset or confused by a cut scene, could this effect their concentration for the game? Nobody wants to be thinking about a previous encounter with the bad guy, while they’re fighting the next character. In movies, there is time for sympathy, but in games there just doesn’t seem like there can be. Maybe in the cut scenes for a short time, but it would be important for it not to have a lasting impression on you.
But most importantly, what do *you* think? Would sympathy for games characters effect how you view them? If you did have sympathy for those little old women in GTA3, could you still kill them and complete the game? Do you think we have time for sympathy in games?
Cheers
- BS (never won gad)
Dude, that was a pretty darn good post and a very good idea. I was shocked really because I didnt think *you* could come up with something like that. You made some very valid points.
Well done!
BTW, I really think you should change your tagline and you shouldnt have wrote your tagline at the end of your post. It might put that certain someone off if you know what I meen.
Anyways, keep this up and you *will* eventually win. I thought this deserved it so we'll just have to see.
:)
Well done!
BTW, I really think you should change your tagline and you shouldnt have wrote your tagline at the end of your post. It might put that certain someone off if you know what I meen.
Anyways, keep this up and you *will* eventually win. I thought this deserved it so we'll just have to see.
:)
Hercules! wrote:
I didnt think *you* could come up with
> something like that.
Spammers are not stoopid :D
>
> BTW, I really think you should change your tagline and you shouldnt
> have wrote your tagline at the end of your post. It might put that
> certain someone off if you know what I meen.
Oh yeah, damn. Lots of people might get the wrong meaning.
> Anyways, keep this up and you *will* eventually win. I thought this
> deserved it so we'll just have to see.
Shut up :P
I didnt think *you* could come up with
> something like that.
Spammers are not stoopid :D
>
> BTW, I really think you should change your tagline and you shouldnt
> have wrote your tagline at the end of your post. It might put that
> certain someone off if you know what I meen.
Oh yeah, damn. Lots of people might get the wrong meaning.
> Anyways, keep this up and you *will* eventually win. I thought this
> deserved it so we'll just have to see.
Shut up :P
Cos he did write the first few paragraphs! He sent it me to read, and I sent it you to help in on it cos he helped me with my post. And I see you have now copied it. I haven’t got any proof of this but Big_slow knows he has done it.
Heh, good post, never thought you had it in you!
Personally, I dont really feel anything when I kill someone in a game. Its all just an escape from the real world and just doing things that I would never ever do for real.
Personally, I dont really feel anything when I kill someone in a game. Its all just an escape from the real world and just doing things that I would never ever do for real.
good post slow, i knew you could write stuff like this :-)
Major Chip Hazard wrote:
> Cos he did write the first few paragraphs! He sent it me to read, and
> I sent it you to help in on it cos he helped me with my post. And I
> see you have now copied it. I haven’t got any proof of this but
> Big_slow knows he has done it.
correction i do have proof:
1. i have it saved on word.
2. people are saying you havent got it in you, they are right you copied it.
> Cos he did write the first few paragraphs! He sent it me to read, and
> I sent it you to help in on it cos he helped me with my post. And I
> see you have now copied it. I haven’t got any proof of this but
> Big_slow knows he has done it.
correction i do have proof:
1. i have it saved on word.
2. people are saying you havent got it in you, they are right you copied it.
> 1. i have it saved on word.
>
> 2. people are saying you havent got it in you, they are right you
> copied it.
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1. you do not have it save on word. i have it saved on word and i sent it tom at 2pm friday night to see what he thinks of it nere ner....
2. ppl say that because i was a spammer
>
> 2. people are saying you havent got it in you, they are right you
> copied it.
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1. you do not have it save on word. i have it saved on word and i sent it tom at 2pm friday night to see what he thinks of it nere ner....
2. ppl say that because i was a spammer
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