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Wed 13/11/02 at 16:11
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It happens time and time again in the games industry, big companies release so called "special editions" or "launch day offers" that only take effect in Japan and subsequently don't make it over here (there even lucky to take effect in America in some cases) but my question is WHY?

Sure, Japan is absolutely nuts on gaming and as a result franchises such as Final Fantasy, Mario And Zelda have an extremely large fanbase over there and so anything closely related or linked into the various franchises are bound to be popular, BUT! why when we in Europe also are as great fans of such franchises are we getting continually given the Raw Deal as it were?

Could it be that games companies just can't be bothered? surely not, surely they should be bothered when they know that games are becoming just as popular over here and in the states as they are in the land of the rising sun, It simply Does Not Make Sense.

The main reason (in most cases) that companies exist is for one soul reason above all others, To Make Money, so ask yourself this, why when these companies know dam well that they can make additional sales and profits by following suit with these offers do they continually dissapoint and tick us off by not doing so? Surely they would wan't release special offers over here if nothing else but to keep us loyal.

Even in the case of other companies like Nintendo for instance who claim that they care about the consumer above all else (not above money obviously) why don't they eat their words by giving us What WE Want.
Sure, latley they have triedto give us the "better deal" as it were by offering us their latest console for the lowest price possible, and don't get me wrong thats all very well and fine, but once customers purchase their console they can't expect to just that and thats it and hope that the consumer will buy every subsequent release that comes out on it for the full (or near full) RRP.

Nintendo's latest unbeleivable offer to those once again lucky jappy chappies, ties in with regard to the latest release in the long running Legend Of Zelda series "the winds of Takato" where upon and after preordering and purchasing the game on release date they recieve a disc containing not only the Smash hit and arguably the best zelda game ever made if not the best game ever "The Legend Of Zelda Ocarina Of Time" but also the previously unreleased URA Zelda Expansion Pack containing new dungeons and the like, bus also! not content with including just that the disc also has footage of forthcoming titles Resident Evil (or should I say Biohazard) Zero and F-zero! all for FREE!

Now you would think that judging by my reaction and many others that would love to get their hands on this disc that they would release it in all three regions (including Europe) as it would no doubt shift a heck of a lot more copies of the game (like we allready needed an incentive) and keep most of us happy and loyal at the same time, But judging by other recent Japan only exclusives (or thought to be exclusive at this time) like the demo discs i can't help but think were about to get another Raw Deal, *sigh* is'nt it great to live in Europe...

slik ~_~
Fri 15/11/02 at 19:14
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"DS..."
Posts: 3,307
Totoro wrote:
> Belldandy wrote:
> I can never quite understand the fuss about the Q - Cube (it is the
> DVD one yeah ?). Nintendo, and all the magazines, have made apoint
> of
> saying that Nintendo is just about gaming, not DVDs + music like the
> competition, and then loads of people moan because we didn't get a
> DVD
> enabled cube.
>
> Make your minds up !
>
> I wasn't really moaning about it not coming out, just the fact that it
> is yet another piece of gaming kit that hasn't arrived over here.
> Even if it did come out in the UK I wouldn't but it anyway as I have a
> Cube and a great all-region dvd player.

Exactly, it's the principle that we should have the right to choose whether we want to purchase special edition consoles, the fact that WE should be able to go down to the retailer and have these special edition consoles, games and offers available to purchase and that WE get to decide wheteher we want it or not and not have that decision made for us and as effect not have that freedom of choice.

slik ~_~
Fri 15/11/02 at 10:00
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"Wants Spymate on dv"
Posts: 3,025
Belldandy wrote:
> I can never quite understand the fuss about the Q - Cube (it is the
> DVD one yeah ?). Nintendo, and all the magazines, have made apoint of
> saying that Nintendo is just about gaming, not DVDs + music like the
> competition, and then loads of people moan because we didn't get a DVD
> enabled cube.
>
> Make your minds up !

I wasn't really moaning about it not coming out, just the fact that it is yet another piece of gaming kit that hasn't arrived over here.
Even if it did come out in the UK I wouldn't but it anyway as I have a Cube and a great all-region dvd player.
Fri 15/11/02 at 09:57
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"DS..."
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*POP*

slik ~_~
Thu 14/11/02 at 16:45
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"bit of a brain"
Posts: 18,933
Panasonic make the Q, not Nintendo. Nintendo just allow Panasonic to use the GC hardware in their product. Nintendo don't get very much money from Q sales, but they get lots of money from the games.
It was all Panasonic's idea
Thu 14/11/02 at 16:03
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"Gamertag Star Fury"
Posts: 2,710
I can never quite understand the fuss about the Q - Cube (it is the DVD one yeah ?). Nintendo, and all the magazines, have made apoint of saying that Nintendo is just about gaming, not DVDs + music like the competition, and then loads of people moan because we didn't get a DVD enabled cube.

Make your minds up !

~~Belldandy~~
Thu 14/11/02 at 15:50
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"Eric The Half A Bee"
Posts: 5,347
Totoro wrote:
> And we haven't yet/never will get the Nintendo "Q"
> officially released over here.

But weve had Spike Milligans 'Q' ovre here since the seventies, which is a much betre deal! :)

I heard the other day that 1 in every two games is purchased by an American, which obviously makes the American market the most important i nthe world. Equally, Japan is the home market for the Playstation and Nintendo, and no matter how many British developers are working on console titles, the home turf is always going to be more important.
Thu 14/11/02 at 14:30
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"Remember me?"
Posts: 6,124
Totoro wrote:
> I have been tempted to try and learn it, especially as i'm a big game
> & anime fan, but, heck, all those strange symbols look exactly the
> same and they talk really fast.

*

*Del Boy voice*

They don't talk proper like what we do.
Thu 14/11/02 at 14:26
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"bing bang bong"
Posts: 3,040
I sometimes reckon that Nintendo actually hates its customers - it has stated before that it makes videogames to make money (try and get Sony or Microsoft to admit that, heh). Why it treats its consumers like dirt, especially in Europe, is beyond me.

Although they're not as bad as they used to be, they've got some way to go before they're in the same league as Sony were when they introduced the Playstation back in '94. I think the big N needs new direction, and they should find that when Yamauchi finally retires.
Thu 14/11/02 at 10:50
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"DS..."
Posts: 3,307
Insane Bartender wrote:
> Companies like Nintendo are
> trying to encourage more growth in Japan by lavishing the market with
> freebies, but eventually, they will have to realise that the real
> money to be made is between the US and Europe.

Thats exactly the point i have been trying to get across and hopefully the Big N will see sense in releasing the disc over here and refrain from screwing Europe and the US over in the future regarding unbeleivable promotional offers such as this.

slik ~_~
Thu 14/11/02 at 10:47
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"Wants Spymate on dv"
Posts: 3,025
Dark Mark™ wrote:
> Totoro wrote:
> I bet if we went to a big game shop in Tokyo we wouldn't believe our
> eyes at all the snazzy box-sets with loads of freebies inside.
>
> *
>
> Big incentive to learn Japanese, I think.

I have been tempted to try and learn it, especially as i'm a big game & anime fan, but, heck, all those strange symbols look exactly the same and they talk really fast.

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