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Mon 25/11/02 at 20:02
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Looking back to the past I can see so many excellent 2D titles that are classics. And now I can see amazing 3D platformers that are classics. Now I wonder is it worth keeping our 2D games as well as our 3D. Are they just as good? Can we do without Sonic and his 2D adventures? Well can you?

Graphics

Well obviously 3D wins this hands down but when looking at Sonic Adventure 2 Battle and Crash Bandicoot I feel that they are just not as good looking as the 2D adventures of Sonic and Knuckles and Donkey Kong Country. They were bright, colourful and quite detailed. But then again games like Super Mario Sunshine and Jak And Daxter look colourful and full of so much detail as well.

3D on graphics: 10/10
2D on graphics: 07/10

Music and SFX

I always loved the tunes on 2D games. Whether it was Streets Of Rage or Super Mario Bros. I always found myself humming them constantly. Okay so the are nothing like the high quality you get today but they didn't need to be. They were effective as they were. 3D graphics do have all the pop and heavy metal music to go along with playing the game but they're not as good as the 2D music. Tunes like "Escape From The City" on Sonic Adventure 2 are great but I prefer the 2D music.

3D on music: 08/10
2D on music: 09/10

Obviously the 3D wins this round on SFX as we have the technology to do it now. Not much I can say.

3D on SFX: 09/10
2D on SFX: 06/10

Controls

I think 2D wins this. They were simple, easy to learn and fun to use all the way through. Sonic had his spin, jump and run which was great. Now he has power bounce, light dash and other moves which ruins it a little. But having new moves can be fun to use. The handling was also very tight for 2D games which made it great fun to play but then again so is the 3D games.

3D on controls: 08/10
2D on controls: 09/10

Lifespan

When looking at Sonic 1 right through to 3 I notice that they were very short games. But more importantly is the fact that even though I completed it once, I found myself playing it 100 more times. It was intensely fun. But then again Donkey Kong Country and Super Mario Bros. 3 were long games too. 3D also has it's fair share of long games too. Mario 64 and Sonic Adventure were long fun games. But Luigi's Mansion and Pikmin were quite short games with no feeling of making you want to play them again which lets the lifespan down a little.

3D on lifespan: 07/10
2D on lifespan: 09/10

Originality

Well being as 2D platforming began the life of Sonic and Mario I think that 2D wins on this hands down although we have seen Super Monkey Ball and a few others which are totally original. Now 3D games are all sequels I find. But the main reason for this I think is that it's getting a lot harder to think of new games. They've all been done, so you have to cut the developers a little slack.

3D on originality: 08/10
2D on originality: 10/10

Multiplayer

Of course 3D games wins this as Monkey Ball, Smackdown and so many others have been played by millions and are the best parts of a game. But 2D games had a few good multiplayer games like Micro Machines and Sonic 2. No where near as good as 3D though.

3D on Multiplayer: 10/10
2D on multiplayer: 07/10

Overall

I'm sorry to disappoint a lot of you but... I think that... 2D games are better than 3D. I'm sorry. They were original, addictive, had great music and were totally fun. I'm not saying 3D games are rubbish or anything as multiplayer games in 3D are much better, it's just that I like the older games better. Call me old fashioned. Well go on, call me it, but I like the Sonic series and Streets Of Rage.

Well there you have it. My verdict on the 3D and 2D battle. Now I know my opinion on 2D gaming being better than 3D may be different to yours but all I'm trying to say is remember where Mario and Sonic originated. If it weren't for 2D gaming we'd have no Super Mario Sunshine or GTA: Vice City.

Thanks for reading
Tue 26/11/02 at 20:12
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"Z will be here soon"
Posts: 7,562
I just told you, a drug enduced hallucination! duh!

It would be a solid optical illusion. You sometimes see something and can tell which was it bends, the dimension would bend both ways, its impossible to our science but theologically it is possible.
Tue 26/11/02 at 20:09
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Posts: 11,038
Maybe, but since we are 3D, and you can't see in more dimensions than what you are (ie. 2D people can't see the third dimension), whta would this 4th (or 5th even) dimesion be?
Tue 26/11/02 at 19:57
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"Z will be here soon"
Posts: 7,562
5 dimensional


Ohhh another drug enduced hallucination...
Tue 26/11/02 at 09:23
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"aliens exist"
Posts: 507
streetfighter 2 turbo, that was possibly the ultimate beat em up of all time, and it was only 2D
Tue 26/11/02 at 08:25
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"Must be Parkinson's"
Posts: 1,471
you seemed to only use the sonic games as an example. Try to take in other points of view, then you could win a GAD.
Mon 25/11/02 at 20:35
"cheerios"
Posts: 842
that would be quite cool.... 4d ...virtual reality... :)
Mon 25/11/02 at 20:34
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"Max Power"
Posts: 2,196
no, no, no 4D
Mon 25/11/02 at 20:07
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Posts: 11,038
I'd say a lot more people would agree with you than you think. Though, if every one of these games were released at the same time, 3D would be the victor, IMO
Mon 25/11/02 at 20:02
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"I Control All Pikmi"
Posts: 99
Looking back to the past I can see so many excellent 2D titles that are classics. And now I can see amazing 3D platformers that are classics. Now I wonder is it worth keeping our 2D games as well as our 3D. Are they just as good? Can we do without Sonic and his 2D adventures? Well can you?

Graphics

Well obviously 3D wins this hands down but when looking at Sonic Adventure 2 Battle and Crash Bandicoot I feel that they are just not as good looking as the 2D adventures of Sonic and Knuckles and Donkey Kong Country. They were bright, colourful and quite detailed. But then again games like Super Mario Sunshine and Jak And Daxter look colourful and full of so much detail as well.

3D on graphics: 10/10
2D on graphics: 07/10

Music and SFX

I always loved the tunes on 2D games. Whether it was Streets Of Rage or Super Mario Bros. I always found myself humming them constantly. Okay so the are nothing like the high quality you get today but they didn't need to be. They were effective as they were. 3D graphics do have all the pop and heavy metal music to go along with playing the game but they're not as good as the 2D music. Tunes like "Escape From The City" on Sonic Adventure 2 are great but I prefer the 2D music.

3D on music: 08/10
2D on music: 09/10

Obviously the 3D wins this round on SFX as we have the technology to do it now. Not much I can say.

3D on SFX: 09/10
2D on SFX: 06/10

Controls

I think 2D wins this. They were simple, easy to learn and fun to use all the way through. Sonic had his spin, jump and run which was great. Now he has power bounce, light dash and other moves which ruins it a little. But having new moves can be fun to use. The handling was also very tight for 2D games which made it great fun to play but then again so is the 3D games.

3D on controls: 08/10
2D on controls: 09/10

Lifespan

When looking at Sonic 1 right through to 3 I notice that they were very short games. But more importantly is the fact that even though I completed it once, I found myself playing it 100 more times. It was intensely fun. But then again Donkey Kong Country and Super Mario Bros. 3 were long games too. 3D also has it's fair share of long games too. Mario 64 and Sonic Adventure were long fun games. But Luigi's Mansion and Pikmin were quite short games with no feeling of making you want to play them again which lets the lifespan down a little.

3D on lifespan: 07/10
2D on lifespan: 09/10

Originality

Well being as 2D platforming began the life of Sonic and Mario I think that 2D wins on this hands down although we have seen Super Monkey Ball and a few others which are totally original. Now 3D games are all sequels I find. But the main reason for this I think is that it's getting a lot harder to think of new games. They've all been done, so you have to cut the developers a little slack.

3D on originality: 08/10
2D on originality: 10/10

Multiplayer

Of course 3D games wins this as Monkey Ball, Smackdown and so many others have been played by millions and are the best parts of a game. But 2D games had a few good multiplayer games like Micro Machines and Sonic 2. No where near as good as 3D though.

3D on Multiplayer: 10/10
2D on multiplayer: 07/10

Overall

I'm sorry to disappoint a lot of you but... I think that... 2D games are better than 3D. I'm sorry. They were original, addictive, had great music and were totally fun. I'm not saying 3D games are rubbish or anything as multiplayer games in 3D are much better, it's just that I like the older games better. Call me old fashioned. Well go on, call me it, but I like the Sonic series and Streets Of Rage.

Well there you have it. My verdict on the 3D and 2D battle. Now I know my opinion on 2D gaming being better than 3D may be different to yours but all I'm trying to say is remember where Mario and Sonic originated. If it weren't for 2D gaming we'd have no Super Mario Sunshine or GTA: Vice City.

Thanks for reading

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