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Now we all know that them shiny red labels that read '18' or '15' will immediately attract to a younger audience.
But what really stops people from playing these games?
We all know that the first obstacle is getting the game without the checkout bloke asking you 'Are you above 18 years of age?', which can easily be avoided by getting mommy or daddy.... *cough*... your parents to purchase the game. Simple.
So your at home enjoying a gloriously violent game, with nothing to stop you. But then I thought 'Who is meant to stop us from playing this game?' and 'How?'.
Do you get the police breaking down the door and saying 'Now Timmy, you should be playing on the Tweenies' and give you a pat on the head? Thought not. But does anyone really give a damn? After all, everyone's making a profit.
we also know that we don't go round undercover trying to shoot our family without being caught like on MGS, and we also can't turn ourselves into cartoony characters and blast a rocket launcher into a crowd of people.
So the point of this little thread is 'Who stops us from playing these games?' and 'What precautions do they take to stop us from being able to enjoy a game with a ludicrous amount of violence?
But what really stops people from playing these games?
We all know that the first obstacle is getting the game without the checkout bloke asking you 'Are you above 18 years of age?', which can easily be avoided by getting mommy or daddy.... *cough*... your parents to purchase the game. Simple.
So your at home enjoying a gloriously violent game, with nothing to stop you. But then I thought 'Who is meant to stop us from playing this game?' and 'How?'.
Do you get the police breaking down the door and saying 'Now Timmy, you should be playing on the Tweenies' and give you a pat on the head? Thought not. But does anyone really give a damn? After all, everyone's making a profit.
we also know that we don't go round undercover trying to shoot our family without being caught like on MGS, and we also can't turn ourselves into cartoony characters and blast a rocket launcher into a crowd of people.
So the point of this little thread is 'Who stops us from playing these games?' and 'What precautions do they take to stop us from being able to enjoy a game with a ludicrous amount of violence?
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Triple_H wrote:
Independent stores especially, have hardly any regulations at all.
Loads of independant stores don't give a damn. This also occurs at our local cinema, but we call that the 'flea pit' so what do you expect? :D
Independent stores especially, have hardly any regulations at all.
Loads of independant stores don't give a damn. This also occurs at our local cinema, but we call that the 'flea pit' so what do you expect? :D
AfroJoe wrote:
>Fools!
Yep they certainly were and so were you parents for letting you play it.
>Fools!
Yep they certainly were and so were you parents for letting you play it.
Some shop sold me Resident Evil 2 on the N64 when I was 12.
It was an 18.
Fools!
It was an 18.
Fools!
Jive wrote:
*sits
> back awaiting a backlash from all under 16s here*
Damn you!!!!
Hey, wait, im not under 16......
LOL at you young uns!!!
:D
*sits
> back awaiting a backlash from all under 16s here*
Damn you!!!!
Hey, wait, im not under 16......
LOL at you young uns!!!
:D
Jive wrote:
> Bleeders wrote:
>Are the ELSPA ratings still in circulation? I can't
> honestly say I've noticed it for a long time?
I wouldn't know an ELSPA if it
> came up behind me and bit me on the a.....anyway I'm way old enough to be able
> to buy what the hell I like so no-one ever asks me my age.
If any kid comes
> upto me in a store and asks me to buy them a game because they're underage, well
> tough sh.., well you know what I mean.
Shops have been getting away with this
> for ages and I don't think it will ever change. If one shop stops you then you
> just keep going down the high street until one of the shops eventually lets you
> buy it no questions asked.
Maybe this statement is going to contradict what
> I've just said. Until the shops are clamped down on with large fines or maybe
> forced closures (maybe a bit extreme?) then it will keep on happening.
I
> think the parents still should take the blame in the long run but that's my
> opinion.
Yep. Agreed. It's down to the parents to allow what sort of content they deem suitable for there children.
> Bleeders wrote:
>Are the ELSPA ratings still in circulation? I can't
> honestly say I've noticed it for a long time?
I wouldn't know an ELSPA if it
> came up behind me and bit me on the a.....anyway I'm way old enough to be able
> to buy what the hell I like so no-one ever asks me my age.
If any kid comes
> upto me in a store and asks me to buy them a game because they're underage, well
> tough sh.., well you know what I mean.
Shops have been getting away with this
> for ages and I don't think it will ever change. If one shop stops you then you
> just keep going down the high street until one of the shops eventually lets you
> buy it no questions asked.
Maybe this statement is going to contradict what
> I've just said. Until the shops are clamped down on with large fines or maybe
> forced closures (maybe a bit extreme?) then it will keep on happening.
I
> think the parents still should take the blame in the long run but that's my
> opinion.
Yep. Agreed. It's down to the parents to allow what sort of content they deem suitable for there children.
Bleeders wrote:
>Are the ELSPA ratings still in circulation? I can't honestly say I've noticed it for a long time?
I wouldn't know an ELSPA if it came up behind me and bit me on the a.....anyway I'm way old enough to be able to buy what the hell I like so no-one ever asks me my age.
If any kid comes upto me in a store and asks me to buy them a game because they're underage, well tough sh.., well you know what I mean.
Shops have been getting away with this for ages and I don't think it will ever change. If one shop stops you then you just keep going down the high street until one of the shops eventually lets you buy it no questions asked.
Maybe this statement is going to contradict what I've just said. Until the shops are clamped down on with large fines or maybe forced closures (maybe a bit extreme?) then it will keep on happening.
I think the parents still should take the blame in the long run but that's my opinion.
>Are the ELSPA ratings still in circulation? I can't honestly say I've noticed it for a long time?
I wouldn't know an ELSPA if it came up behind me and bit me on the a.....anyway I'm way old enough to be able to buy what the hell I like so no-one ever asks me my age.
If any kid comes upto me in a store and asks me to buy them a game because they're underage, well tough sh.., well you know what I mean.
Shops have been getting away with this for ages and I don't think it will ever change. If one shop stops you then you just keep going down the high street until one of the shops eventually lets you buy it no questions asked.
Maybe this statement is going to contradict what I've just said. Until the shops are clamped down on with large fines or maybe forced closures (maybe a bit extreme?) then it will keep on happening.
I think the parents still should take the blame in the long run but that's my opinion.
Sorry. You were right, we were talking console games.
The thing with the age restrictions on games, is that some stores don't adhere to them like others.
I think the ELSPA ones are often taken lightly, where as the BBFC stlye classifications *have* to be adhered to.
Are the ELSPA ratings still in circulation? I can't honestly say I've noticed it for a long time?
The thing with the age restrictions on games, is that some stores don't adhere to them like others.
I think the ELSPA ones are often taken lightly, where as the BBFC stlye classifications *have* to be adhered to.
Are the ELSPA ratings still in circulation? I can't honestly say I've noticed it for a long time?
Bleeders wrote:
>That's the big stumbling block I think. Thing with the Internet is, you don't know who anyone is, let alone there age.
I thought we were talking about console games here ;) but yeah I agree with you on the internet, there's no way you can tell what age people are......you have no idea how old I am and vica verca.
Again, depending on age with the internet then again that is upto the parents to put the correct controls in place and also keep an eye on what sites they are visiting but I bet hardly any do.
*sits back awaiting a backlash from all under 16s here*
>That's the big stumbling block I think. Thing with the Internet is, you don't know who anyone is, let alone there age.
I thought we were talking about console games here ;) but yeah I agree with you on the internet, there's no way you can tell what age people are......you have no idea how old I am and vica verca.
Again, depending on age with the internet then again that is upto the parents to put the correct controls in place and also keep an eye on what sites they are visiting but I bet hardly any do.
*sits back awaiting a backlash from all under 16s here*
Jive wrote:
> I think the only way to get round this is to educate the parents. If they let
> their kids play on games which are designed with an adult theme (no not porn)
> then I think it is them who should be blamed for any actions taken by their
> kids.
Anyway, that's my opinion but I've no idea how this is going to be put
> into practise.
That's the big stumbling block I think. Thing with the Internet is, you don't know who anyone is, let alone there age.
> I think the only way to get round this is to educate the parents. If they let
> their kids play on games which are designed with an adult theme (no not porn)
> then I think it is them who should be blamed for any actions taken by their
> kids.
Anyway, that's my opinion but I've no idea how this is going to be put
> into practise.
That's the big stumbling block I think. Thing with the Internet is, you don't know who anyone is, let alone there age.
I think the only way to get round this is to educate the parents. If they let their kids play on games which are designed with an adult theme (no not porn) then I think it is them who should be blamed for any actions taken by their kids.
Anyway, that's my opinion but I've no idea how this is going to be put into practise.
Anyway, that's my opinion but I've no idea how this is going to be put into practise.
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