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Thu 06/09/07 at 12:16
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Hello Eccles! Mmm I love eccles cakes by the way.

I wonder if you could help me (Or anyone else if possible). Sometimes when I surf the interwebs I find something that I quite fancy for my own site. Unfortunately I think Tony has blocked YouTube from your interwebs so I can't show you what I want to duplicate. For those who don't have it blocked I'd love to duplicate the global menu. Freeola have something similiar that they added recently on the MyFreeola page (the floating menu for the go back to: links). I'd like something like that but to only appear when clicked on.

Questions
What magic is doing this. Is it stable on other browsers. Is it easy to impliment and does anyone have any links or homemade scripts they could show me?

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Thu 06/09/07 at 12:16
Regular
Posts: 19,415
Hello Eccles! Mmm I love eccles cakes by the way.

I wonder if you could help me (Or anyone else if possible). Sometimes when I surf the interwebs I find something that I quite fancy for my own site. Unfortunately I think Tony has blocked YouTube from your interwebs so I can't show you what I want to duplicate. For those who don't have it blocked I'd love to duplicate the global menu. Freeola have something similiar that they added recently on the MyFreeola page (the floating menu for the go back to: links). I'd like something like that but to only appear when clicked on.

Questions
What magic is doing this. Is it stable on other browsers. Is it easy to impliment and does anyone have any links or homemade scripts they could show me?

GO TEAM MACHIE!
Thu 06/09/07 at 12:32
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The drop downs in MyFreeola are generated using Javascript. But you can do a similar thing in CSS. Have a good look around that site, it's extremely useful.
A Javascript example that's faily easy to implements is here.
That uses a javascript library called jQuery, which is very compact and easy to use. The setup instruction for that menu are here.

Hope that helps a bit.
Thu 06/09/07 at 14:47
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Thank you very much Eccles =)

I tried to get the CSS one working and it did fine, but I cant seem to get it working in IE =( So I think I'll do it the old fashion way.

I have a dream, that one day websites with nice features will be accepted by all browsers.
Thu 06/09/07 at 18:12
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A JavaScript menu is far easier to implement than CSS ones, which do tend to have lots of cross-browser issues.

The one used in MyFreeola took very limited tweaking for IE and it works fine in all the browsers we tested (for both PC and Mac).

I'd recommend checking out this site.
Thu 06/09/07 at 18:27
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I think we all want cross-browser standards compliance! It'll never happen as no one can ever agree on the standards (MS).
Javascript menus are easier to implement, but for usability the menu should still work when Javascript is turned off and that's where the challenge of cross-browser CSS comes in. However, most people assume that the user has Javascript enabled for their browser otherwise a lot of functionality would be lost. Screen readers and other computer aids still struggle with Javascript though.
There are lots of sites out there to help you, including Dynamic Drive and Hotscripts and also lots of really handy Javascript libraries designed to make writing Javascript quicker and easier, such as jQuery, Prototype and loads of others listed here.
Thu 06/09/07 at 22:06
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I truely hope Tony gives you guys bonuses for being so helpful. Even when Im about to call it quits, you still offer more help with my problem. =D

Thank you very much Loki, this one seems to be very good and works in IE too. As Eccles said I want to limit the amount of Javascript I use for the reasons he's mentioned. But I'm hoping I can get away with it as it's just a menu for alternative languages for my website. (Like YouTube uses it to select different countries)

The alternative was just a simple pulldown menu. But everyone seems to avoid it like the plaque now and use javascript, css etc. Not sure why that is.

Thanks for the links Eccles, I'm checking them out now.
Fri 07/09/07 at 09:53
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Just a thought...

Machie or Digitrader(Mod) any chance of changing the 'Thread Title' to something meaningful?!

i.e. 'Javascript/CSS menus'




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Fri 07/09/07 at 11:14
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What're you trying to say? I'm not meaningful!? :P
Fri 07/09/07 at 11:18
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Eccles wrote:
> What're you trying to say? I'm not meaningful!? :P


As if...

Eccles 'this post' is currently number one!

;¬)
Sat 08/09/07 at 14:12
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Whichever method you go with Machie, make sure that the original link clicks to a meaningful page, so that people without JavaScript / CSS can use the links as normal, like in MyFreeola, if you have JavaScript disabled, the links go to the home pages of each section, whereas other sites unfortunately use a meaningless # value or the javascript: handler in the href attribute ... like the link to Gameaday Winners to the left.

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