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Fri 23/03/12 at 23:41
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If you are a gamer in your twenties, chances are you are old enough to know that there were 151 Pokémon; You would remember what a Universal Game-Link Cable was; And you may even remember what it was like to play a Pokémon game in more than four colours for the first time via the Super Nintendo Entertainment System's Super Game Boy.

Pokémon, or Pocket Monsters as it is known in Japan, started off as a third party view Game Boy adventure game where it was your job to complete a scientific research mission by collecting wild creatures and training them to defend you against other wild creatures or for friendly competition. An organisation on a differing view on how Pokémon should be treated and used, named Team Rocket, caused trouble in Kanto, the part of the Pokémon world in which you play, and it was up to you, as the protagonist, to thwart their evil plans. Most Pokémon could be collected by finding them in the wild, however there were some that could only be collected through getting through certain in-game events, collecting certain items, or trading with the opposite version of the game. For example, Pokémon Blue version would let you catch a Caterpie, which would evolve into a Metapod, then a Butterfree. Red version wouldn't, but instead would let you catch a Weedle that would evolve into a Kakuna, then a Beedrill. Trading with others was the only way to catch all 151 Pokémon...well, sort of. Mew, Pokémon number 151, could only be caught through a Nintendo Pokémon tour event where download devices were manned in shopping centres by people wearing Nintendo logo'd T-shirts. They used special Super Nintendo devices to activate Mew to your game cartridge. An event, as a young teenage Pokéfan, that caused much excitement!

As you travelled around Kanto, you would challenge the Pokémon Gym Leaders to gain badges that would qualify you to enter the Pokémon League. Each gym leader would be an expert in their field of Pokémon. Challenge the 'Elite 4' and the champion and you would become a Pokémon Master. The remaining goal to continue to collect them all.

These games launched a massive TV hit which is currently in its gazillionth series and is still highly popular. Movies have followed the series and the game series has continued to evolve through various colourful titles on the various Nintendo handhelds over the last 16 years. As a result, the 151 Pokémon number has grown to over 650; The different types of Pokémon have multiplied greatly; and
the spin-off series have generated various games that have diverted away from the traditional games and yet, getting a Mewtwo is still one of the best achievements for any Pokémon gamer.

The Future of Pokémon?

Unexpectedly, Nintendo have recently announced that Pokémon Black and White, the Nintendo DS versions of the game, are going to get sequels in the form of Pokémon Black and White 2. The biggest suprise of this is that Nintendo haven't developed this for the Nintendo 3DS. Whilst I am not sure of the content, these seem to include an extra couple of legendary monsters to collect with a new storyline. Whilst great, to actually catch 'em all is certainly a real test. Gone from the title is the "Gotta Catch 'Em All" slogan as to be fair, unless you have hundreds of hours of game time available it is nearly impossible to do so. But there are other changes that the series has developed that I don't really care for...

The rounding of levels of Pokémon to 50 in battles may seem a fair way of competing with your mates, but that removes a lot of the strategy that the older games posessed. A strong rock type Pokémon could be defeated by a weaker Water-Pokémon. You would use your Pokémon's strengths to counteract the opponent's. But there are so many different types with different moves that it makes it impossible to keep track like you used to be able to. The older games were almost like a game of chess - you could plan a few moves ahead to beat the opponent, whilst they were doing the same to you. With Pokémon having multiple types it just seems to be a game of which Pokémon has the strongest attack and speed rather than who has put the most thought and skill into the game.

So what would I like to see from a new main-series Pokémon game? Well, do we really need more monsters? Would another 300 make any difference at this stage? I really don't think so. Nintendo ought to buy out the Digimon franchise and merge it so that they don't have to worry about breaching copyrights when creating even more monsters. But that's unlikely. What I would really like to see is the Pokémon series going back to its roots. Get back to basics and make it about catching them all through an adventure that sees you exploring areas that contain new and old monsters, make a new story that doesn't feel like a clone of the previous one, and make battling friends and online opponents more flexible. Don't want limits? Great. You've put in the work so you deserve to show you're the best. Want to battle someone with a similar level of Pokémon? A decent matchmaking mode like that of the Halo games would help. And don't overly complicate the attacks and types. It's too difficult to strategise at the moment and just feels like pot luck.

Oh, and make them for the current systems. We're on 3DS now. I'm sure it can't be difficult to make a 3DS cart compatable with both versions of DS - after all, the slider can put games back into 2D, so it wouldn't take much to make an enhanced game that plays on both, surely? This would also help gamers not feel like they've wasted 40 hours on the previous version only to have to start again.

So what would you like to see for the future of one of Nintendo's most popular franchises?

On a side note - If Mewtwo was a genetically modified version of Mew, why was Mewtwo numbered 150 and Mew 151?

Surely Mew was discovered first for the scientists to be able to use his genetic material to create Mewtwo. And the name MewTWO obviously indicates it is a 2nd version of Mew...

Oh! Just to mark an achievement...I have managed to type a 1000+ article on Pokémon without mentioning the famous yellow electric mouse known as Pikachu!
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Fri 23/03/12 at 23:41
Regular
Posts: 15,681
If you are a gamer in your twenties, chances are you are old enough to know that there were 151 Pokémon; You would remember what a Universal Game-Link Cable was; And you may even remember what it was like to play a Pokémon game in more than four colours for the first time via the Super Nintendo Entertainment System's Super Game Boy.

Pokémon, or Pocket Monsters as it is known in Japan, started off as a third party view Game Boy adventure game where it was your job to complete a scientific research mission by collecting wild creatures and training them to defend you against other wild creatures or for friendly competition. An organisation on a differing view on how Pokémon should be treated and used, named Team Rocket, caused trouble in Kanto, the part of the Pokémon world in which you play, and it was up to you, as the protagonist, to thwart their evil plans. Most Pokémon could be collected by finding them in the wild, however there were some that could only be collected through getting through certain in-game events, collecting certain items, or trading with the opposite version of the game. For example, Pokémon Blue version would let you catch a Caterpie, which would evolve into a Metapod, then a Butterfree. Red version wouldn't, but instead would let you catch a Weedle that would evolve into a Kakuna, then a Beedrill. Trading with others was the only way to catch all 151 Pokémon...well, sort of. Mew, Pokémon number 151, could only be caught through a Nintendo Pokémon tour event where download devices were manned in shopping centres by people wearing Nintendo logo'd T-shirts. They used special Super Nintendo devices to activate Mew to your game cartridge. An event, as a young teenage Pokéfan, that caused much excitement!

As you travelled around Kanto, you would challenge the Pokémon Gym Leaders to gain badges that would qualify you to enter the Pokémon League. Each gym leader would be an expert in their field of Pokémon. Challenge the 'Elite 4' and the champion and you would become a Pokémon Master. The remaining goal to continue to collect them all.

These games launched a massive TV hit which is currently in its gazillionth series and is still highly popular. Movies have followed the series and the game series has continued to evolve through various colourful titles on the various Nintendo handhelds over the last 16 years. As a result, the 151 Pokémon number has grown to over 650; The different types of Pokémon have multiplied greatly; and
the spin-off series have generated various games that have diverted away from the traditional games and yet, getting a Mewtwo is still one of the best achievements for any Pokémon gamer.

The Future of Pokémon?

Unexpectedly, Nintendo have recently announced that Pokémon Black and White, the Nintendo DS versions of the game, are going to get sequels in the form of Pokémon Black and White 2. The biggest suprise of this is that Nintendo haven't developed this for the Nintendo 3DS. Whilst I am not sure of the content, these seem to include an extra couple of legendary monsters to collect with a new storyline. Whilst great, to actually catch 'em all is certainly a real test. Gone from the title is the "Gotta Catch 'Em All" slogan as to be fair, unless you have hundreds of hours of game time available it is nearly impossible to do so. But there are other changes that the series has developed that I don't really care for...

The rounding of levels of Pokémon to 50 in battles may seem a fair way of competing with your mates, but that removes a lot of the strategy that the older games posessed. A strong rock type Pokémon could be defeated by a weaker Water-Pokémon. You would use your Pokémon's strengths to counteract the opponent's. But there are so many different types with different moves that it makes it impossible to keep track like you used to be able to. The older games were almost like a game of chess - you could plan a few moves ahead to beat the opponent, whilst they were doing the same to you. With Pokémon having multiple types it just seems to be a game of which Pokémon has the strongest attack and speed rather than who has put the most thought and skill into the game.

So what would I like to see from a new main-series Pokémon game? Well, do we really need more monsters? Would another 300 make any difference at this stage? I really don't think so. Nintendo ought to buy out the Digimon franchise and merge it so that they don't have to worry about breaching copyrights when creating even more monsters. But that's unlikely. What I would really like to see is the Pokémon series going back to its roots. Get back to basics and make it about catching them all through an adventure that sees you exploring areas that contain new and old monsters, make a new story that doesn't feel like a clone of the previous one, and make battling friends and online opponents more flexible. Don't want limits? Great. You've put in the work so you deserve to show you're the best. Want to battle someone with a similar level of Pokémon? A decent matchmaking mode like that of the Halo games would help. And don't overly complicate the attacks and types. It's too difficult to strategise at the moment and just feels like pot luck.

Oh, and make them for the current systems. We're on 3DS now. I'm sure it can't be difficult to make a 3DS cart compatable with both versions of DS - after all, the slider can put games back into 2D, so it wouldn't take much to make an enhanced game that plays on both, surely? This would also help gamers not feel like they've wasted 40 hours on the previous version only to have to start again.

So what would you like to see for the future of one of Nintendo's most popular franchises?

On a side note - If Mewtwo was a genetically modified version of Mew, why was Mewtwo numbered 150 and Mew 151?

Surely Mew was discovered first for the scientists to be able to use his genetic material to create Mewtwo. And the name MewTWO obviously indicates it is a 2nd version of Mew...

Oh! Just to mark an achievement...I have managed to type a 1000+ article on Pokémon without mentioning the famous yellow electric mouse known as Pikachu!

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