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Tue 01/01/02 at 19:45
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Diving is happening all the time now and is shocking.

Players do it because they know they will get of with a booking.Should divers be sent off?
Sun 13/01/02 at 14:04
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The only trouble with a red card for diving, Referees sometimes don't see the incident as clearly as the cameras do.

As the Van Brockhorst showed when he had a second yellow card for diving when he fell over and he did not even appeal.

There would be far too many red cards for incidents that did not deserve them.
Sun 13/01/02 at 13:36
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i know what you all mean, when i went to derby vs bristol rovers, the two italians ravenelli and carbone were continously diving and getting mostly fouls.
The derby team didnt get a single card and diving should obviously be looked at a little further.
Sun 13/01/02 at 12:25
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Everyone always says "well if he'd gone down it'd have been a penalty" etc. But, how do we know this? Unless the incident happens you can't possibly predict how the referee would have reacted.

They key really is consistency, and that's something the FA and Refereeing societies will be working on.
Sun 13/01/02 at 01:18
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Well, diving is becoming.. Well. I shall explain.

Someone runs into box, gets tackled, stays on feet (Just) then slips and falls.

Ref gives nothing. If he would have dove/fell to floor he would of had penatly. But, if he was *Caught* diving, then thats a YELLOW card. Not Red. No way.

Yellow, ok. Red. Nah.
Fri 11/01/02 at 22:29
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BB $co++y / J@zz wrote:
> Yeah, i think a player should get a Red Card for diving, i mean when things
> aren't going your teams way, its more obvious that its a dive because the team
> desperately wants to win the match.

Why should they get a red card? Morally it's wrong because it's unsporting behaviour, but the fact is that a dive is ONLY a yellow-card offence.
Fri 11/01/02 at 21:03
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Yeah, i think a player should get a Red Card for diving, i mean when things aren't going your teams way, its more obvious that its a dive because the team desperately wants to win the match.
Fri 11/01/02 at 17:51
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yank wrote:
> i think that any player who is given a yellow card for diving should also be
> warn and told that the next time it happens for the rest of the season will
> automatticly receive a red card.

Well, that's a little bit harsh because if your not 100% sure you can't penalise someone for diving, and that means that there'll be occasions were players get penalised wrongly or get away for diving.

It's a tough situation to deal with, but if they stay by the laws of the game there's no reason why the situation can't sort itself out.
Fri 11/01/02 at 14:41
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i think that any player who is given a yellow card for diving should also be warn and told that the next time it happens for the rest of the season will automatticly receive a red card.
Thu 03/01/02 at 12:40
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I admit it, if it is a blatent dive then yes, the player should be booked. But we are getting to the point where it can only be a dive or a penalty, why can't it be neither? One of the refs named and shamed a few divers in a statement and among the names was Luis Boa Morte. Now, has anyone seen that tackle? It is not a penalty, but it was a freekick. It is quite obvious that he has had his legs took from under him, just one of a number of bad decisions.

As for wildcards, the idea in principle is a good one. It would certainly benefit Villa because we have had two dodgy penalty decisions given against us when we played Liverpool on boxing day and Sunderland on New Years Day. These two penalty's were an absolute joke, so maybe if wildcards existed, the penalty decision would be revoked and Steven Gerrard and Niall Quinn rightly booked. It's just a good job Litmanen hit the post and Schmeichel saved Phillips'.
Wed 02/01/02 at 23:28
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Well, the laws of the game state that diving is only a yellow-card offence.

It's considered unsporting behaviour, and as such red-card's cannot be given for diving.

Whether or not players deserve to be sent off, is a different issue. In my opinion, anyone who deliberately dives deserves to be sent off, but the laws of the game state differently.

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