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It's your back and your neck that tell you when something is corny.
You know the feeling. The hairs on the back of your neck stand on end and shivers are sent up your spine (sometimes to the degree of nearly breaking your back).
But is it actually good to have cornyness in films? Sometimes, even though we know it's corny, it gives us a good feeling.
Cuba Gooding Jnr in Pearl Harbor for example. When he gets to shoot a gun for the first time and starts to shoot down Japanese planes, it feels good. Even though it feels like your back is breaking, it's a good feeling.
Now we all know how corny Michael Bay films are. Some of them so much so, that it just seems as though he has sat down with the script-writer and said, "We need a Presidentís speech.....oh and make it corny." And then the next day, had lunch with the music composer and said to him, "Now we need to have the most corny music you've ever done".
That's another thing that contributes towards how corny a film is - the music. Independence Day is a prime example. You've got the President of the United States standing in front of hundreds of pilots all about to risk their lives, and then the typical 'American' heroic music starts and one pilot does the most over-the-top salute you're ever likely to see in a film.
Going back to Michael Bay, he must recieve the most corny director award. He has a President speech in every one of his films and it's always the same - 'the American people must join together to get over this new threat'. However, on the commentary by him on the 2-disc Armageddon DVD, he says how he hates having presidents in films. Now I find this difficult to believe as the President speech usually contains the main bulk of a film's corny lines.
Pearl Harbor, The Rock and Armageddon are all unbelievably corny. A few examples from Pearl Harbor are the Cuba Gooding Jnr scene with the gun (which I've already mentioned) and the Alec Baldwin lines:
"Explain what? The halo-ha shirts you were wearing.....? Or the seven Jap planes you shot down?"
and
"You know why we're gonna win this war? Because of men like those"
I mean how corny is that?
Yes...incredibly. However, that's nothing compared to Armageddon. This is without doubt in my mind, the most corny film to ever have been made.
"Permission to shake the hand of the daughter of the bravest man I've ever known"
and
"Do you swear on your daughter's life that you will make that mark?"
"I will make 800ft."
"Then let's turn this bomb off!"
I mean, Jesus, he just tried to kill him for God's sake, and now he suddenly wants to help him? Armageddon also has the corniest music score ever along with the world's worst Presidential speech. 'I've got an idea. Let's have the president say excellent in his speech so that we can easily translate it into French.'
Haley Joel Osment never saw dead people, he just saw 'Armageddon'.
So going back to my original question. Do people actually like cornyness in a film? Iíve no doubt that most Americans do but what about us Brits?
Write your opinions and you could also write what you think the most corny film or line is ever. You already know what mine are.
:)
You know the feeling. The hairs on the back of your neck stand on end and shivers are sent up your spine (sometimes to the degree of nearly breaking your back).
But is it actually good to have cornyness in films? Sometimes, even though we know it's corny, it gives us a good feeling.
Cuba Gooding Jnr in Pearl Harbor for example. When he gets to shoot a gun for the first time and starts to shoot down Japanese planes, it feels good. Even though it feels like your back is breaking, it's a good feeling.
Now we all know how corny Michael Bay films are. Some of them so much so, that it just seems as though he has sat down with the script-writer and said, "We need a Presidentís speech.....oh and make it corny." And then the next day, had lunch with the music composer and said to him, "Now we need to have the most corny music you've ever done".
That's another thing that contributes towards how corny a film is - the music. Independence Day is a prime example. You've got the President of the United States standing in front of hundreds of pilots all about to risk their lives, and then the typical 'American' heroic music starts and one pilot does the most over-the-top salute you're ever likely to see in a film.
Going back to Michael Bay, he must recieve the most corny director award. He has a President speech in every one of his films and it's always the same - 'the American people must join together to get over this new threat'. However, on the commentary by him on the 2-disc Armageddon DVD, he says how he hates having presidents in films. Now I find this difficult to believe as the President speech usually contains the main bulk of a film's corny lines.
Pearl Harbor, The Rock and Armageddon are all unbelievably corny. A few examples from Pearl Harbor are the Cuba Gooding Jnr scene with the gun (which I've already mentioned) and the Alec Baldwin lines:
"Explain what? The halo-ha shirts you were wearing.....? Or the seven Jap planes you shot down?"
and
"You know why we're gonna win this war? Because of men like those"
I mean how corny is that?
Yes...incredibly. However, that's nothing compared to Armageddon. This is without doubt in my mind, the most corny film to ever have been made.
"Permission to shake the hand of the daughter of the bravest man I've ever known"
and
"Do you swear on your daughter's life that you will make that mark?"
"I will make 800ft."
"Then let's turn this bomb off!"
I mean, Jesus, he just tried to kill him for God's sake, and now he suddenly wants to help him? Armageddon also has the corniest music score ever along with the world's worst Presidential speech. 'I've got an idea. Let's have the president say excellent in his speech so that we can easily translate it into French.'
Haley Joel Osment never saw dead people, he just saw 'Armageddon'.
So going back to my original question. Do people actually like cornyness in a film? Iíve no doubt that most Americans do but what about us Brits?
Write your opinions and you could also write what you think the most corny film or line is ever. You already know what mine are.
:)
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Armageddon is a pretty corny film, I must agree.
I still go with Armageddon. Everything about it is corny. I still like it but the music, most of the dialog and the presidents speech are all so corny. And that last line, "Permission the shake the hand of the daughter of the bravest man I've ever known". Unbelievable.
The hairs on my neck are dstanding up just think about it.
:)
The hairs on my neck are dstanding up just think about it.
:)
Dav1d wrote:
> Nice Post......
The corniest film has to be Titanic!
True.
> Nice Post......
The corniest film has to be Titanic!
True.
Hmmmm.....obviously the word 'corn' has triggererd something else in the mind of young Mr. Tiltawhirl.
:)
:)
Dav1d wrote:
> Nice Post......
The corniest film has to be Titanic!
and personally I dont
> think a film would be a film without a bit of animal porn! :-)
Dav1d mate, your freakin weird.
:P
> Nice Post......
The corniest film has to be Titanic!
and personally I dont
> think a film would be a film without a bit of animal porn! :-)
Dav1d mate, your freakin weird.
:P
Nice Post......
The corniest film has to be Titanic!
and personally I dont think a film would be a film without a bit of corn! :-)
The corniest film has to be Titanic!
and personally I dont think a film would be a film without a bit of corn! :-)
Hello Dav1d!!!!!
misterhappy wrote:
In fact anything Spielberg does is infested with cornyness.
Although I disagree with this statement, there was line in A.I. which was immensely corny and that was:
"What were those words for mommy?"
The last time that many shivers were sent up my spine was about 2 weeks ago (when I watched Armagedon last).
In fact, how that final scene with the naration about what David and his mum did on their final day together was so bad, I can't believe it was kept in the finished film. It should have been cut without a shadow of a doubt.
In fact anything Spielberg does is infested with cornyness.
Although I disagree with this statement, there was line in A.I. which was immensely corny and that was:
"What were those words for mommy?"
The last time that many shivers were sent up my spine was about 2 weeks ago (when I watched Armagedon last).
In fact, how that final scene with the naration about what David and his mum did on their final day together was so bad, I can't believe it was kept in the finished film. It should have been cut without a shadow of a doubt.
The Presidents speach at the end of Independance day is one of the most corny scenes i've seen.
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