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Wed 19/11/03 at 21:46
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I always thought that it was doing all right not great in japan but elsewere its doing fine!! Any one know diffrent(not sad gamecube owners).
Wed 19/11/03 at 21:46
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I always thought that it was doing all right not great in japan but elsewere its doing fine!! Any one know diffrent(not sad gamecube owners).
Wed 19/11/03 at 22:41
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I don't know whethe to laugh or feel sorry for you.
Wed 19/11/03 at 22:56
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For an Xbox expert you don't seem to know very much. But I will answer your question anyway.

Xbox is a flop in Japan. A huge flop. As in weekly sales have been below 500 units in a country that has 125 million people. That is in comparison to 10's of 1000's every week for the PS2 and GBA, and several thousand for the Gamecube.

In the USA, the Xbox is now the second biggest player. By a growing margin.

In Europe it is fairly tight between Xbox and GC.

Worldwide both have sold around 10 million, although I think that the Xbox has the overall edge sales wise. But no reliable figures. However the PS2 has worldwide sales of over 55 million making it the biggest by far.

The Xbox is not in trouble, it is increasing its market share, it is managing now to turn a profit (in comparison to Nintendo who despite great results from the GBA still made a loss this financial year). Live is growing, now boasting over 500,000 players which gives an uptake rate of 5%. For the PS2 online to have that sort of percentage online would require over 2.75 million subscribers. Which it does not have. Gamecube online has around 3 people worldwide, although there is a suspicion that all are actually Hedfix with 3 GCs online.

Games wise things are looking good for the Xbox. Several big hitters are due out soon, i.e. PGR 2, GTA double pack, and Counter Strike. Halo 2 and Half Life 2 are out next Easter.

Basically things are looking great :-)
Thu 20/11/03 at 09:33
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xbox xpert wrote:
> I always thought that it was doing all right not great in japan but
> elsewere its doing fine!! Any one know diffrent(not sad gamecube
> owners).

You're a sad Xbox owner. You don't have an open mind, aren't willing to try new things, and so will only play the familliar.

Whereas I, as a GameCube AND Xbox owner have an open mind, will try new things on both Xbox and GameCube and wont just play another game that plays pretty much like another similar one.

Note: This isn't intended to say that owners of Xboxs and nothing else are sad. This is intended to say that 'xbox xpert' is sad.
Thu 20/11/03 at 09:37
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According to NGC's (UK) figures:

Playstation 2s sold: 1.4m units
Xbox: 460,000 units
GameCube: 350,000 units (Nintendo units including GBA and GBASP sales: 1.2m units)

It is fair to say in a non-fanboyish way that Microsoft are still struggling to compete against Nintendo.

I'm not going to make a comparison between Sony and Nintendo however because PS1s are still being sold and haven't been included in these figures.
Thu 20/11/03 at 18:16
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Actually, the GameCube is selling and making more money than the Xbox.
Thu 20/11/03 at 18:19
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*covers ears*

All I read was that the Cube had taken a 25% Euro market shar and was doing better than it was in the USA

*grabs Maverick and runs at high speed*
Thu 20/11/03 at 18:25
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Nintendo have just posted their biggest loss since 1962. The GC is haemoraging money. The GBA is the only thing keeping them from bankruptcy.

The Xbox is now making money.

These figures are from the company financial reports.
Thu 20/11/03 at 22:56
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The Xbox will never make money. Each console is sold at a loss, and it has been predicted that with the amount of money lost so far it's highly unlikely Microsoft will take any form of profit. The GameCube is breaking even at £79.99. That is as far as my knowledge extends concerning profits.

Sales figures, however, suggest that Nintendo are doing better worldwide than Microsoft - and quite cleanly too. Obviously (regarding total units sold) they're triumphing massively in Japan and have now overtaken in Europe. America, truth be told, I'm not entirely sure about but the sales figures for October show the GameCube outselling the Xbox by 78,000 consoles. Considering there's never been much between the two in the USA, if you add all this up it seems that Nintendo are the one's winning second place on a worldwide scale.
Thu 20/11/03 at 23:39
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As I said the figures I got were from the company financial reports, I read the FT every day.

The reason that the Xbox is making money despite the loss on hardware is that it has the highest tie ratio of all the consoles. That means that it has the highest average amount of games sold per console. On average every Xbox owner has 5 games or something compared to 4.2 for the GC and 4 for the PS2. Something like that.

Nintendo are not making money on the GC. Definitely not.
http://www.reuters.co.uk/ newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=3812829

If you can be bothered to read that you will also see I was wrong about it being Nintendo's biggest lost since 1962. They went public in 1962. No this was in fact their first ever interim loss. This time last year they made about £150 million profit in the same period.

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