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"ATI or GeForce?"

Ok. Heres one for you. Which graphics card is better, Ati or GeForce.
I used to have a GeForce card in my old pc and have recently upgraded to Ati on my new pc. I have asked an endless ammount of people and no one ever seems to agree. What do you think?

Ok. Heres one for you. Which graphics card is better, Ati or GeForce.
I used to have a GeForce card in my old pc and have recently upgraded to Ati on my new pc. I have asked an endless ammount of people and no one ever seems to agree. What do you think?

Currently ATI have the technical advantage. In the past it was Nvidia cards though.

Yep ATI win this round.

What about bang-for-buck? Who has the best performance versus cost ratio?

Still ATI. Every ATI card outperforms the equivalent Nvidia and is normally cheaper.

The only exception is the Nvidia GeForce FX 5700. It is better than the Radeon 9600 XT, just, but is marginally more expensive. It was introduced because the Radeon 9600 largely outperformed the GeForce FX 5600, to such an extent that it was losing a lot of market share.

Best value card now is the Radeon 9800 Pro at only £150 or so. That makes me cry.

There are storms brewing over the next generation beasts though...

ATI announced that they didnt want to "bolt on" Version 3 shaders to the next major card.Their reasons being that by the time shader 3 compatible games are released they will be ready to release a killer shader 3 card.
They will stick with super fast version 2 shaders...

Nvidia however is believed to have successfully added version 3 shaders to their next beast...

I foresee adverts along the lines of "The geforce FX 6200 - the only card to support third generation shaders" etc!!!

Let the games begin

True, but ATI get to use the "only true PCI Express card!!" one as well.

I think ATI will win the next one as well. Nvidia have tried to be too clever and strayed from the DX9 specs, and it has cost them. If ATI sticks to that, then they are on to a winner.

Considering there isn't a game out yet that goes remotely close to the full potential of the 9800 XT I would imagine it will be a loooooong way off before ATI and Nvidia battle it out with a similar power card, Nvidia have got a lot to do to make up for the bodged effort with the 5950 and 5900 which both struggled to run and Direct X 9.0 game with pixel shader 2.0 and above, not to mention handle any sort of Alailising or filtering.

You forgot about Farcry. That is one beautiful looking game. I may attempt an overclock of a 256 Mb 9800 XT for that one. And I have a few more MHz to squeeze out of the CPU.

i have a 128mb 9800 pro card (the hercules blue one no longer in produection)

it came with the wrong game which means i have an excuese to send it back an replase it for one which is now cheaper (money back) but better

the one i would get would be a 256mb 9800 xt which is clocked higher than my currant one

should i bother?