GetDotted Domains

Viewing Thread:
"A riddle for you"

The "Freeola Customer Forum" forum, which includes Retro Game Reviews, has been archived and is now read-only. You cannot post here or create a new thread or review on this forum.

Thu 17/11/05 at 23:11
Regular
Posts: 20,776
3 hung over students go for breakfast at a cafe.

They each order the same - a full english breakfast and a pot of coffee.
This comes to exactly £5.00 each, totalling £15.

At the end of the meal, they each throw in a £5 note and give it to the waitress. She takes the £15 to the till, where the manager informs the dozy mare that there is a special offer on today only - full english and a pot of coffee for £4.

The waitress puts the money into the cash drawer and takes out 5 pound coins. She walks back to the table and gives each of the 3 students a pound back. Being a thieving gypsy, she then pockets the remaining 2 pound coins.

To summarise - the students, having received a quid back each, have paid £4 each for their meals.

3 x £4 = £12

The tea leaf waitress pocketed £2

£12 + £2 = £14

Where has the other pound gone?
Fri 18/11/05 at 00:37
Regular
Posts: 8,220
I like to think of it as 'which side of the equation' the £2 that the waitress stole should be on.

Beacuse essentially, as Dringo says, the puzzle is about keeping track of where you should be adding and subtracting the money.

Hence:

Ammount paid by group = Ammount in til + Ammount half-inched by tea leaf

(just to confuse matters more ;^) )


So:

£15 Paid originally = £10 in til + £5 taken out by waitress


Then:

£12 paid = £10 in til + £2 in pocket




I like the puzzle as it teaches you the imporance of actually thoroughly understanding what's happening in a mathematical problem, instead of just moving the numbers in a way that seems right. Sometimes easier said than done.


This kind of 'slight of reasoning' is also used in a scam where you go into a shop and buy something of small value with a note, then try to make up the money with change, and in the confusion', you come out ahead.

Someone tried it on me once when I was working in a petrol station a few years ago. It was only because I knew of the move already that it didn't work on me.
Even then I wasn't convinced the guy had actually done it intentionally (he pulled it off very smoothly, obviously well practiced!). Although when I told him 'that doesn't work', the way he tripped over himself apologising and getting out of the shop suggested he might have known what he was doing.
Thu 17/11/05 at 23:34
Regular
Posts: 18,185
I did this in GCSE. It had me stumped actually. I could do the "Microsoft puzzle" in 60 seconds, yet this one had me going for weeks.

As it happened everyone else got it and I didn't.
Thu 17/11/05 at 23:33
Regular
Posts: 20,776
My work here is done.
Thu 17/11/05 at 23:32
Regular
Posts: 18,185
ARGH! There is no missing pounds.

The kids paid £12... we've counted that... the "£2" has nothing to do with it. She just nicked it from the till.
Thu 17/11/05 at 23:30
"Tesco value"
Posts: 992
They did have a chip and pin machine at one point though, it got broke and they're still waiting for a replacement.



sorry
Thu 17/11/05 at 23:30
Regular
Posts: 20,776
Rozza

Already seen that thanks. Read 'The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch', that'll keep you thinking.
Thu 17/11/05 at 23:29
"Tesco value"
Posts: 992
yeah, I guessed she had stolen a quid from the till, it just to me seems like a poor riddle
Thu 17/11/05 at 23:28
Regular
Posts: 18,185
It is a very famous riddle actually.


And it is about counting money twice.

In your story you say that the students paid £12. The £2 is part of that, it is arbitury (Sp).

The two pounds that the waitress has kept is part of the 15 pounds that was in the till - it is not different money, so it can't be added to the £12 the customers have paid.

See? Counting money twice.
Thu 17/11/05 at 23:27
"Tesco value"
Posts: 992
still confused
Thu 17/11/05 at 23:26
Regular
"I got a great Idea"
Posts: 236
watch donnie darko, that'll mess you up

Freeola & GetDotted are rated 5 Stars

Check out some of our customer reviews below:

10/10
Over the years I've become very jaded after many bad experiences with customer services, you have bucked the trend. Polite and efficient from the Freeola team, well done to all involved.
Easy and free service!
I think it's fab that you provide an easy-to-follow service, and even better that it's free...!
Cerrie

View More Reviews

Need some help? Give us a call on 01376 55 60 60

Go to Support Centre
Feedback Close Feedback

It appears you are using an old browser, as such, some parts of the Freeola and Getdotted site will not work as intended. Using the latest version of your browser, or another browser such as Google Chrome, Mozilla Firefox, or Opera will provide a better, safer browsing experience for you.