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GTA:San Andreas has been removed from Wal-Mart & Target stores following the news that locked/hidden sex scenes are in the game.
Wal-Mart & Target are major players when it comes to the distribution of entertainment in the States, I think I remember reading they're responsible for about 70-80% of CD sales to show how big - record companies send advance copies to albums to Wal-Mart to check it meets with the standard of "family safeness".
Ok, pretty grim state of business there but not what I'm wound up about.
What has riled me is the fact the game has only been removed since the "shock" discovery of badly-pixelated simulated sex.
Riiiiiiiight.
So it's ok to sell a game that has brutal murder, car-theft, corrupt policemen, drug references etc. It's perfectly fine for me to kick a teenager of a BMX and shoot him in the face. There's no moral danger whatsoever with murdering an old woman, kicking her to death and taking her money. I can quite happily cause a traffic jam on a bridge and then satchel-charge rows and rows of commuters trying to get to work.
That's all good, it's acceptable for a family-aimed chainstore to stock a game that lets me do that.
But I can't buy a game where people do sex?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Hidden sex at that, not intended to be played without actively seeking the option?
What is the world coming to, won't somebody think of the children???
Can somebody explain why organised crime, drug running, murder and random violence is family acceptable, yet (ironically) sex and the creating of families is such a threat to the civilised world?
GTA:San Andreas has been removed from Wal-Mart & Target stores following the news that locked/hidden sex scenes are in the game.
Wal-Mart & Target are major players when it comes to the distribution of entertainment in the States, I think I remember reading they're responsible for about 70-80% of CD sales to show how big - record companies send advance copies to albums to Wal-Mart to check it meets with the standard of "family safeness".
Ok, pretty grim state of business there but not what I'm wound up about.
What has riled me is the fact the game has only been removed since the "shock" discovery of badly-pixelated simulated sex.
Riiiiiiiight.
So it's ok to sell a game that has brutal murder, car-theft, corrupt policemen, drug references etc. It's perfectly fine for me to kick a teenager of a BMX and shoot him in the face. There's no moral danger whatsoever with murdering an old woman, kicking her to death and taking her money. I can quite happily cause a traffic jam on a bridge and then satchel-charge rows and rows of commuters trying to get to work.
That's all good, it's acceptable for a family-aimed chainstore to stock a game that lets me do that.
But I can't buy a game where people do sex?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Hidden sex at that, not intended to be played without actively seeking the option?
What is the world coming to, won't somebody think of the children???
Can somebody explain why organised crime, drug running, murder and random violence is family acceptable, yet (ironically) sex and the creating of families is such a threat to the civilised world?
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GTA:San Andreas has been removed from Wal-Mart & Target stores following the news that locked/hidden sex scenes are in the game.
Wal-Mart & Target are major players when it comes to the distribution of entertainment in the States, I think I remember reading they're responsible for about 70-80% of CD sales to show how big - record companies send advance copies to albums to Wal-Mart to check it meets with the standard of "family safeness".
Ok, pretty grim state of business there but not what I'm wound up about.
What has riled me is the fact the game has only been removed since the "shock" discovery of badly-pixelated simulated sex.
Riiiiiiiight.
So it's ok to sell a game that has brutal murder, car-theft, corrupt policemen, drug references etc. It's perfectly fine for me to kick a teenager of a BMX and shoot him in the face. There's no moral danger whatsoever with murdering an old woman, kicking her to death and taking her money. I can quite happily cause a traffic jam on a bridge and then satchel-charge rows and rows of commuters trying to get to work.
That's all good, it's acceptable for a family-aimed chainstore to stock a game that lets me do that.
But I can't buy a game where people do sex?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Hidden sex at that, not intended to be played without actively seeking the option?
What is the world coming to, won't somebody think of the children???
Can somebody explain why organised crime, drug running, murder and random violence is family acceptable, yet (ironically) sex and the creating of families is such a threat to the civilised world?
GTA:San Andreas has been removed from Wal-Mart & Target stores following the news that locked/hidden sex scenes are in the game.
Wal-Mart & Target are major players when it comes to the distribution of entertainment in the States, I think I remember reading they're responsible for about 70-80% of CD sales to show how big - record companies send advance copies to albums to Wal-Mart to check it meets with the standard of "family safeness".
Ok, pretty grim state of business there but not what I'm wound up about.
What has riled me is the fact the game has only been removed since the "shock" discovery of badly-pixelated simulated sex.
Riiiiiiiight.
So it's ok to sell a game that has brutal murder, car-theft, corrupt policemen, drug references etc. It's perfectly fine for me to kick a teenager of a BMX and shoot him in the face. There's no moral danger whatsoever with murdering an old woman, kicking her to death and taking her money. I can quite happily cause a traffic jam on a bridge and then satchel-charge rows and rows of commuters trying to get to work.
That's all good, it's acceptable for a family-aimed chainstore to stock a game that lets me do that.
But I can't buy a game where people do sex?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Hidden sex at that, not intended to be played without actively seeking the option?
What is the world coming to, won't somebody think of the children???
Can somebody explain why organised crime, drug running, murder and random violence is family acceptable, yet (ironically) sex and the creating of families is such a threat to the civilised world?
It's an 18 ... and I doubt the sex scenes amount to anything worse than whatever hardcore porn an 18-year-old can get hold of. Surely it's up to the people who buy the game - i.e. adults - to decide what they do or don't want to see.
Yep, and I think San Andreas is a phenomenal piece of gaming - love it.
But my point is, why has it only been removed since the discovery that you might be able to pretend sex somebody?
How is that so much more dangerous to my mind and morals than the encouraged and expected levels of violence and murder?
Wal-Mart have removed the game, as have Target, because this shocking sex shocker has meant that game has been slapped with the US-version of 18 certificate (which we have here anyway for these games), and it's policy to not stock games with that rating.
But it's only achieved that rating since this stupid sex thing.
So minors are allowed to maim, kill and crime but they can't watch computer people have sex.
Just doesn't make sense to me.
But my point is, why has it only been removed since the discovery that you might be able to pretend sex somebody?
How is that so much more dangerous to my mind and morals than the encouraged and expected levels of violence and murder?
Wal-Mart have removed the game, as have Target, because this shocking sex shocker has meant that game has been slapped with the US-version of 18 certificate (which we have here anyway for these games), and it's policy to not stock games with that rating.
But it's only achieved that rating since this stupid sex thing.
So minors are allowed to maim, kill and crime but they can't watch computer people have sex.
Just doesn't make sense to me.
You can see sex anywhere on TV. Especially American sitcoms, that's why half the "actresses" get jobs on there - because of their looks. Will & Grace? Half are jokes are that they BUM other people. Anal sex at primetime. The nudity issue is muted by the fact you can take the clothes off a barbie doll.
But your point is exactly what I was thinking - you can inflict more or less any mode of death on anyone, at any time in the game. But a bit of simulated rocking back and forth in clumsy-looking positions, and Hilary Clinton wades in with her "Don't do that! Don't do that!" attitude.
And of course it's all for votes and publicity: isn't she running for some kind of position soon? First female President? This'll get the left on her side pronto.
Are we allowed to link to the screens? It's nothing you can't see in Hollyoaks.
But your point is exactly what I was thinking - you can inflict more or less any mode of death on anyone, at any time in the game. But a bit of simulated rocking back and forth in clumsy-looking positions, and Hilary Clinton wades in with her "Don't do that! Don't do that!" attitude.
And of course it's all for votes and publicity: isn't she running for some kind of position soon? First female President? This'll get the left on her side pronto.
Are we allowed to link to the screens? It's nothing you can't see in Hollyoaks.
I have no idea and it's not.
But we all know the world is not a logical place.
But we all know the world is not a logical place.
This is American censorship all over - hypocrisy at it's very best.
They show The Jerry Springer Show (which has a rating of PG-14) in the early afternoon/late evening and they bleep out the swearing and blur the one-fingered hand gestures and nudity, but they keep in the fighting and the threats of physical violence.
Like Sheila Broflovski says: "Remember: horrible, deplorable violence is okay so long as no-one says any naughty words!"
They show The Jerry Springer Show (which has a rating of PG-14) in the early afternoon/late evening and they bleep out the swearing and blur the one-fingered hand gestures and nudity, but they keep in the fighting and the threats of physical violence.
Like Sheila Broflovski says: "Remember: horrible, deplorable violence is okay so long as no-one says any naughty words!"
This is more explicit than the GTA "sex": [URL]http://www.ebaumsworld.com/smartbear.html[/URL]
Rumor control is stating that pointers to the content was leaked to mod coders.
Very possible IMHO.
Very possible IMHO.
monkey_man wrote: >
> Are we allowed to link to the screens? It's nothing you can't see in
> Hollyoaks.
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Hardly hardcore is it.
> Are we allowed to link to the screens? It's nothing you can't see in
> Hollyoaks.
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Hardly hardcore is it.
FinalFantasyFanatic wrote:
> It's an 18 ... and I doubt the sex scenes amount to anything worse
> than whatever hardcore porn an 18-year-old can get hold of. Surely
> it's up to the people who buy the game - i.e. adults - to decide what
> they do or don't want to see.
Exactly. Especially with the (utterly despicable, of course) amount of porn on the net these days anyway.
I've just watched a video of the offending scene myself and it's laughably tame in comparision to most hardcore stuff online. [URL]http://files.gtanet.com/gtasa/videos/hotcoffee.wmv[/URL] if you're interested, although under 18's prepare to have your eyes burned out by the unholiness of it all.
Seriously, I created more realistic porn scenes with my sister's Barbies when I was little.
> It's an 18 ... and I doubt the sex scenes amount to anything worse
> than whatever hardcore porn an 18-year-old can get hold of. Surely
> it's up to the people who buy the game - i.e. adults - to decide what
> they do or don't want to see.
Exactly. Especially with the (utterly despicable, of course) amount of porn on the net these days anyway.
I've just watched a video of the offending scene myself and it's laughably tame in comparision to most hardcore stuff online. [URL]http://files.gtanet.com/gtasa/videos/hotcoffee.wmv[/URL] if you're interested, although under 18's prepare to have your eyes burned out by the unholiness of it all.
Seriously, I created more realistic porn scenes with my sister's Barbies when I was little.
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