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Game sequels are meant to be improved versions of the game, not just having a number put on the end or having the number made bigger! Take Gran Turismo 3 for instance. Gran Turismo 3 has 150 cars? What a joke! This should be called FAST TURISMO! The whole idea of a sequel is to improve on past games, hence it should have more cars (Not less!), more manufacturers, more tracks, and most important of all, ONLINE PLAY! Not just a few touched up graphics. Its about the realism of the car that counts! Not just how good the cars look. It should all be about handling, speed and pyshics. Better graphics won't make the game last longer, be more fun or feel more real. Companies now days just take big name games and add a number to the end. I mean, look at the Army Men series, around 5 sequels and its still as s***e as ever. Thanks to Bobdefish for giving me the idea!
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Game sequels are meant to be improved versions of the game, not just having a number put on the end or having the number made bigger! Take Gran Turismo 3 for instance. Gran Turismo 3 has 150 cars? What a joke! This should be called FAST TURISMO! The whole idea of a sequel is to improve on past games, hence it should have more cars (Not less!), more manufacturers, more tracks, and most important of all, ONLINE PLAY! Not just a few touched up graphics. Its about the realism of the car that counts! Not just how good the cars look. It should all be about handling, speed and pyshics. Better graphics won't make the game last longer, be more fun or feel more real. Companies now days just take big name games and add a number to the end. I mean, look at the Army Men series, around 5 sequels and its still as s***e as ever. Thanks to Bobdefish for giving me the idea!
Good point, just look at Fifa.
Games makers need to start getting more original ideas, or at least put soem serious ideas into sequels, instead of this rubbish which is just a slight tweaking, rather than a vastly improved game.
Get you act together games makers! or sony will have Tomb Raider 7 and Tekken 8 as new games!
Games makers need to start getting more original ideas, or at least put soem serious ideas into sequels, instead of this rubbish which is just a slight tweaking, rather than a vastly improved game.
Get you act together games makers! or sony will have Tomb Raider 7 and Tekken 8 as new games!
True,i can understand some games not changing much like spyro,bust a move etc but some need to be something else than just a slight upgrade!!!
No-point....They won't listen..We are just the public.
QuakeTheRoom wrote:
> Game sequels are meant to be improved versions of the >game, not just having a number put on the end or having >the number made bigger! Take Gran Turismo 3 for instance >Gran Turismo 3 has 150 cars? What a joke! This should be >called FAST TURISMO! The whole idea of a sequel is to >improve on past games, hence it should have more cars(Not >less!), more manufacturers, more tracks.
GT3 has about 160 cars. Cars in GT3 took 2 weeks to make,cars in GT1 and 2 took 1 day to make. It would have to over 2200 hours to make the cars in GT3 while about 600 hours for GT2.
GT3 has better A.I, better handling, and more or about the same number of courses. There a new courses, the Oil Change, wet weather racing. Loads of race championships to win e.t.c. The problem with GT1 and 2 is that they had about 10 variants for some of the cars, the only difference was the engine size. There are are only the 160 cars but they are all different not like with GT1 and 2. I know there is some cars that arent in GT3 that were in GT2 that should be in but GT3 IMO is a sequel. As GT3 offers the RUF cars instead of them being on old style Porsches they now include, the brand new 911 and Boxster.
> Game sequels are meant to be improved versions of the >game, not just having a number put on the end or having >the number made bigger! Take Gran Turismo 3 for instance >Gran Turismo 3 has 150 cars? What a joke! This should be >called FAST TURISMO! The whole idea of a sequel is to >improve on past games, hence it should have more cars(Not >less!), more manufacturers, more tracks.
GT3 has about 160 cars. Cars in GT3 took 2 weeks to make,cars in GT1 and 2 took 1 day to make. It would have to over 2200 hours to make the cars in GT3 while about 600 hours for GT2.
GT3 has better A.I, better handling, and more or about the same number of courses. There a new courses, the Oil Change, wet weather racing. Loads of race championships to win e.t.c. The problem with GT1 and 2 is that they had about 10 variants for some of the cars, the only difference was the engine size. There are are only the 160 cars but they are all different not like with GT1 and 2. I know there is some cars that arent in GT3 that were in GT2 that should be in but GT3 IMO is a sequel. As GT3 offers the RUF cars instead of them being on old style Porsches they now include, the brand new 911 and Boxster.
GT3 has about 160
> cars. Cars in GT3 took 2 weeks to make,cars in GT1 and 2 took 1 day
> to make. It would have to over 2200 hours to make the cars in GT3
> while about 600 hours for GT2.
That is not the point. They shouldnt make the game less than it could be just because it takes too long. If they want the game to sell more the sequels should be bigger than the one before.
> cars. Cars in GT3 took 2 weeks to make,cars in GT1 and 2 took 1 day
> to make. It would have to over 2200 hours to make the cars in GT3
> while about 600 hours for GT2.
That is not the point. They shouldnt make the game less than it could be just because it takes too long. If they want the game to sell more the sequels should be bigger than the one before.
You should read again what Adrian said, and maybe you`d begin to understand. It isn`t about making things bigger. As Adrian said, the AI is better, the handling and other effects all add to the realism. As for the number of cars, there are less versions of exactly the same thing, which means there are just as many makes of car, just less different models of the same car. I think that is a very good thing.
I can understand that size matters in an RPG or something. Final Fantasy is big, and thats really good, however, they don`t make it so big that they sacrifice quality.
I can understand that size matters in an RPG or something. Final Fantasy is big, and thats really good, however, they don`t make it so big that they sacrifice quality.
Instead of hours I actually meant days. So the 160 cars in GT3 took over 2200 days to make while the 600 in GT2 took only 600 days. It would take 8400 days to make the 600 cars in GT2 to put them into GT3.
More cars or more tacks doesnt mean that a sequel is better. GT3 is a sequel becuase its such an improvement visiually and physically. The PS2 is capable of calculating much more physical calculations than PS1.
It would be nice to have all of the cars from GT2 in the game so the total is 600 but it would take 8400 days to make. So if 1 man worked on them it would take over 23 years. A team of 25 people could make the cars in just under a year.
GT3 includes better Rally racing, F1 cars, wet weather racing e.t.c. It looks and feels better than any other racing game. When you modify your car it will sound and handle different. When you lower the cars suspension e.t.c it will make a difference in the handling. All of these features make GT3 better than the previous games.
The number of cars maybe a disapointment for some but the cars are the best ones. You do find the cheap budget cars that start you off but you get some nice motors that you wouldnt get to drive normally. Having 10 variations of one model of car in GT1 and 2 isnt that good. When you look at GT2 and take the 600 cars alot of these will be the same but have a different number of doors or its from a previous year. The only difference between them is 5kg or one can be turned 10 BHP more than the other. To me this isnt a different car its just a different spec. GT3 gets rid of this which to me is a good thing, if I was going to get a R34 Skyline I would only get the best and not the 2nd to best.
More cars or more tacks doesnt mean that a sequel is better. GT3 is a sequel becuase its such an improvement visiually and physically. The PS2 is capable of calculating much more physical calculations than PS1.
It would be nice to have all of the cars from GT2 in the game so the total is 600 but it would take 8400 days to make. So if 1 man worked on them it would take over 23 years. A team of 25 people could make the cars in just under a year.
GT3 includes better Rally racing, F1 cars, wet weather racing e.t.c. It looks and feels better than any other racing game. When you modify your car it will sound and handle different. When you lower the cars suspension e.t.c it will make a difference in the handling. All of these features make GT3 better than the previous games.
The number of cars maybe a disapointment for some but the cars are the best ones. You do find the cheap budget cars that start you off but you get some nice motors that you wouldnt get to drive normally. Having 10 variations of one model of car in GT1 and 2 isnt that good. When you look at GT2 and take the 600 cars alot of these will be the same but have a different number of doors or its from a previous year. The only difference between them is 5kg or one can be turned 10 BHP more than the other. To me this isnt a different car its just a different spec. GT3 gets rid of this which to me is a good thing, if I was going to get a R34 Skyline I would only get the best and not the 2nd to best.
But shouldn't the game have online capabilities? I mean think about it, wouldn't it be great if there was online garages where you can buy new models or new cars altogether?You could even sell them to your freinds over the internet. Perhaps online racing to. You could bet each other money (in the game) that you'll win races. You could goto different countries using the internet to race on new tracks.
Not at the moment, there is no means for online features!! However Ive heard that the next installment of GT will feature online functions!!
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