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F1: Should Schummi go? There are 17 replies
Original Message posted by pb on 26/06/2006 at 11:19:04AM
So, with Monaco sorted there's still the overriding feeling that some of the drivers still feel angry about Michael Schumacher's antics.  But this is such a small consideration when you take the whole year so far into account.  The question is; are the performances and the incidents this last year enough reason for him to throw in the towel at the end of 2006? 

There are many reasons why he should go, but probably just as many reasons for him to stay in the sport he had, until last year, dominated.  With Alonso now looking to show the world that his championship last year wasn't just a one-hit wonder, Schummi is inching back some ground to fight back.  He's still in front of Kimi Raikkonen, helped in part to a late mistake yesterday, who seems to be the only other driver capable of challenging Alonso at the moment. 

But if he stayed in for another year, would Ferarri be able to pull something out of the bag?  Would Schumacher want to risk damaging his reputation further?  Or is the experience of racing more important to him than the experience of winning?  It's a question only he could answer, but for me personally, I think that we need some new blood in F1 and to do that, someone has to go.  Would that be Schumacher?  I don't know...
 
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El Viking
"Hellfire Stoker"
on 02/09/2007 at 9:15:45PM
Total Posts: 2124
Thanks for clearing that up, it's rather... before my time!
 
Grandprix
"Too Orangy For Crow"
on 02/09/2007 at 8:49:56PM
Total Posts: 2145
Prost and Senna never really got on and they both won a title by knocking each other out so it really evened out. It was more based on hatred and anyone but them to win.
 
El Viking
"Hellfire Stoker"
on 02/09/2007 at 6:44:38PM
Edited: 2/9/07 21:17
Total Posts: 2124
schumigirl1956 wrote:
> How can someone say nasty throughts about Michael Schumacher
> okay he has made a few mistakes but he is certainly a genius
> compared to Gordon Ramsay, he is a pile of horse manure, i would
> want to be a fan of his, his cooking is crap, Gary Rhodes cooks
> better than him, anyway i have followed Michael Schumacher since
> 1991 and i still am remaining with him, so drivers today in which
> i am including is Juan pablo Montoya, Fernando Alonso and many
> more are a bunch of idiots, they will never conquer world titles
> and fastest laps compared to Michael, because Michael has natural
> born talent in which drivers today lack.

Alonso has no natural talent... right, so those assured performances dating back to when he was at Minardi challenging drivers in far superior cars never happened? Or the speedy rise of Raikonnen (especially) or Hamilton through juinor formuale, for example? Come to think of it, have you ever heard of a guy called Mark Webber either? :)

Bloody good driver, but also guilty of using underhand tactics; why else was he excluded from the 1997 championship? And why take offence to that when it's so blindingly obvious; the great Senna won a championship through ramming once himself I think. Sad that the two never properly really competed against each other too...
 
Kawada
"Brooklyn boy"
on 02/09/2007 at 2:43:13PM
Total Posts: 2880
Probably just an attempt to rile me thinking with the Ramsay avatar i was a fan of his, unfortunately i've never watched Hell's Kitchen and can't say i really give two fig newtons about Ramsay so it failed :-D
 
Biggie Little Jr
"LOLLERSKATES!"
on 02/09/2007 at 2:21:24PM
Total Posts: 1940
Gordon Ramsay I believe has more Michelin stars than anyone in this country, he is an accomplished chef, has a good tv series and is an ex professional footballer. Michael Schumacher was a cheat. Incidences such as ramming Hill off the track and parking at Monaco back up my point.

Ramsay > Schumacher
 
Grandprix
"Too Orangy For Crow"
on 02/09/2007 at 1:24:44PM
Total Posts: 2145
Heh, I don't think I've ever heard Schumacher compared to chefs before.
 
Kawada
"Brooklyn boy"
on 01/09/2007 at 11:03:54PM
Total Posts: 2880
Ainsley Harriot > Michael Schumacher
 
schumigirl1956
"schumachergirl1956"
on 01/09/2007 at 11:01:52PM
Total Posts: 1
Kawada wrote:
> Good riddance, one less plonker, dangerous person and cheat in
> sport.
>
> And the Yankees fans have a chant that is extremely apt for him
>
> Overrrrrrrr-raaaaaaated


How can someone say nasty throughts about Michael Schumacher okay he has made a few mistakes but he is certainly a genius compared to Gordon Ramsay, he is a pile of horse manure, i would want to be a fan of his, his cooking is crap, Gary Rhodes cooks better than him, anyway i have followed Michael Schumacher since 1991 and i still am remaining with him, so drivers today in which i am including is Juan pablo Montoya, Fernando Alonso and many more are a bunch of idiots, they will never conquer world titles and fastest laps compared to Michael, because Michael has natural born talent in which drivers today lack.
 
Kawada
"Brooklyn boy"
on 11/09/2006 at 1:33:47PM
Total Posts: 2880
Good riddance, one less plonker, dangerous person and cheat in sport.

And the Yankees fans have a chant that is extremely apt for him

Overrrrrrrr-raaaaaaated
 
Tony
"Just the odd post"
on 11/09/2006 at 12:01:12PM
Total Posts: 242
Smedlos wrote:
> I seem to get the feeling you don't like him....... :D
>
> As a person I don't like him, as a sportsman he's a genius.

He's not a sportsman, but I agree that he is a good driver.

No sportsman would want a contract that prevents his team-mate from competing with him.
 
Smedlos
"Pint Please"
on 11/09/2006 at 11:40:44AM
Total Posts: 6075
I seem to get the feeling you don't like him....... :D

As a person I don't like him, as a sportsman he's a genius.
 
Tony
"Just the odd post"
on 11/09/2006 at 11:16:51AM
Total Posts: 242
Good riddance.  Let's hope that Fiat can tuck him away in a drawer somewhere as I hope not to have to see his face on TV every couple of weeks and I am sure the F1 pit lane will be better off without him.

Alonso for the championship, to wipe the smug grin off of Schumacher's face.
 
Smedlos
"Pint Please"
on 11/09/2006 at 9:36:05AM
Total Posts: 6075
Well he's confirmed this is his last season and F1 will be a lesser place without him.

I hope he wins the title this year to go out on a high after all he's done for the sport. As for who will take over from him at the top I don't think there will be anyone and I can see the likes of Alonso, Button and Raikkonen battling for the title.

It'll be interesting to see who takes over his drive as well, I think a current driver will move from another team rather than a completely new F1 driver getting the spot.
 
Smedlos
"Pint Please"
on 06/08/2006 at 10:14:10PM
Total Posts: 6075
His antics today were controversial to say the least after holding up De La Rosa and Heidfeld before wrecking his car in a tussle with Heidfeld.

But whatever antics he does on the racetrack F1 will be a lesser sport without him and his driving skills and I hope he sticks around for a while longer.
 
Digitrader
"rodeado de tontos"
on 22/07/2006 at 8:35:19PM
Total Posts: 785
No he should stay, he is not the only F1 driver that has twisted the rules to suit, its always happened and always will.
 
Grandprix
"Too Orangy For Crow"
on 26/06/2006 at 3:46:39PM
Total Posts: 2145
Schumacher has always been a character that courted controversy. Hitting Damon Hill in 1994 and many other occasions. They just didn't get on. There was the black flag in 1994, hitting Villeneuve in 1997, a number of moves on drivers like Coulthard, handing a victory to Barrichello at Indy looking for the closest finish to a race ever and the list goes on.

Saying that though, I don't think Benetton and Ferrari helped him out much. They were just as much to blame, what with the fuel hose rigging and the delibrate wearing of the plank under the car, which Benetton got caught for, staged finishes and forcing teammates to back up Schumacher.

I'm almost certain that Schumacher delibrately stopped Irvine winning the title by not driving to his full potential so that he could win Ferrari's first title since 1979.

Anyway, there is no doubt that Schumacher has talent. I think in most people's eyes, for those who have watched F1 for a while anyway, Schumacher's reputation is beyond repair anyway.

The lack of competition at the top is probably more of a concern  than the need for fresh blood. It always seems to come down to a 2 horse race. Alonso and Schumacher this year, Raikkonen and Alonso last year etc...

What is needed is some other teams to step up and challenge. If you look at Schumacher during races in recent years, he very rarely overtakes people for position on the track. He stays in touch to the car in front and then when they go in the pits or he comes in the pits, he throws in lap after lap of speed and invariably comes out in front.

Is this a sign that Schumacher doesn't have the inclination to risk a pass that often? I think it's only a matter of time before Schumacher retires. It may be at the end of this year or the end of next year. I don't think he'll be driving in 2008.
 
Kawada
"Brooklyn boy"
on 26/06/2006 at 1:53:43PM
Total Posts: 2880
There shouldn't even be a question of "Should Schummi decide to pack it in?" as he already should be banned from the sport. He has shown time and time again that he has no regard for his fellow driver's safety in his pursuit of a win and he's gotten away with it time and time again.

Formula 1 is dangerous enough as it is without some idiot driving dangerously just so he can pick up 10 points
 
pb
"Work makes me tired"
on 26/06/2006 at 11:19:04AM
Total Posts: 7273
So, with Monaco sorted there's still the overriding feeling that some of the drivers still feel angry about Michael Schumacher's antics.  But this is such a small consideration when you take the whole year so far into account.  The question is; are the performances and the incidents this last year enough reason for him to throw in the towel at the end of 2006? 

There are many reasons why he should go, but probably just as many reasons for him to stay in the sport he had, until last year, dominated.  With Alonso now looking to show the world that his championship last year wasn't just a one-hit wonder, Schummi is inching back some ground to fight back.  He's still in front of Kimi Raikkonen, helped in part to a late mistake yesterday, who seems to be the only other driver capable of challenging Alonso at the moment. 

But if he stayed in for another year, would Ferarri be able to pull something out of the bag?  Would Schumacher want to risk damaging his reputation further?  Or is the experience of racing more important to him than the experience of winning?  It's a question only he could answer, but for me personally, I think that we need some new blood in F1 and to do that, someone has to go.  Would that be Schumacher?  I don't know...
 
 
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