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"eat toast!"
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on 04/04/2007 at 10:28:22PM
Edited: 4/4/07 22:30 Total Posts: 666 |
I'm sure a fair few of you watch this program and probably enjoying it like me. Anyway, we can discuss the episode tonight was particualry ruthless and nasty.
The challenge was to create and promote a product for Dogs. The boys team (eclipse) came up with a utility belt (looking more like a sash or a miltary gear) and the girls (stealth) developed a doggie cupboard where you could store all your doggie goods, food, belts, clothes etc. 2 pretty dubious products, eclipses belt product was panned by the focus group (which prefered the other idea of a blanket that caught hairs and was machine washable). Another with questionable target market making it difficult or challenging to sell. Neverless, the girls won by a massive margin. For the boys, it was a double blow with 2 members of their team leaving.
My 2 cents: The project manager really was useless, he's creditenals really did hint at it already. Bankrupt twice and choose a pretty autocratic style that didn't rub very well nor was he any good at management either. A key problem was partially the project leaders personal pride and intergrity that made him such a lousy leader. Too proud to take advice, critism and thought he good enough to make effective decisons. He had no business acumin at all (hence the record)
Stating that you're the boss (as noted right at the start of the challenge) and you have all the power is foolish in business. Its the workers who get the job done and not the managers. Managers are the brains and ensures that they get the work done (In fairness, 2 sharks in the group would cause problems in the long run.). There were so many situations and key moments that could have been resolved but the project manager refused to listen to the most disruptive member of the group (tray?) who was giving some pretty valid pointers like the delay of the other members within the focus group. Nor was he very decisive in decison making and by the look of things made a half arsed commitment to things.
But that said, tray was very disruptive and a valid point that he likes to be in control and frequently antagonsitic. He seems to have the drive, motivation and force to win, but his blunt attitude and refusal to accept authority really makes him a liablity. To be fair to the project manager, whilst his product didn't win, there was still no guarentee that the other product would have beaten the girls mammouth victory despite the good feedback from the focus group. This wasn't helped by the fact that another team member acutally had a degree in product design and didn't contribute at all.
So whats your thoughts on tonights show. Any comments on the first show or next weeks one?
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Biggie Little Jr.
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on 13/06/2007 at 11:28:40PM
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Tre saved Simon in that task, he gave a lot of good ideas and advice. Simon's buliding was a lot better, so he deserved to win on that task.
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spoonbeast
"eat toast!"
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on 13/06/2007 at 10:03:11PM
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spoonbeast wrote:
> christinas is probably going to win it. But everything i've said
> usually is wrong or destined to be wrong and jinx the outcome.
> Even those from the past!
Once again, i fulfil the prophercy that i will get the answer wrong and jinx the outcome of a show. Simon won it.
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Der Nazi
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on 13/06/2007 at 8:41:17PM
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Well, they both proved to be very entertaining, at least; it was Tre's attitude that killed his chances though, I can imagine him becoming greatly successful in the near future. Simon certainly does have the gift of the gab, and a sharp mind to boot.
Katie being fired from her day job? Pretty amusing, I guess the employers must have seen her true colours come out on TV and get sick of her!
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Vampyr
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on 13/06/2007 at 8:14:54PM
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Tre should have won, hes clearly the most capable, and in fairness, 70% of tasks won with huge contributions in each one? who wouldnt be arrogant?
Simon to win though, just coz he clearly knows so much about sir alan, that he cant fail to be impressed. Also the tramampoline trabampoline antics were awesome.
Street.
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Shrimper
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on 12/06/2007 at 8:23:31PM
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I think if Alan Sugar needs a Prank Monkey then Simon is his man. For comedy values, his break dancing, the inappropriateness of the trampoline. However, I feel he will win.
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Machie
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on 12/06/2007 at 12:52:41PM
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Apparently Katie has been fired from her 90k job and they even saID she wasnt even earning 90k.
Why does the Met Office need a brand consultant anyway? =S
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spoonbeast
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on 08/06/2007 at 10:04:19PM
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I think it was because he thought too high of himself. Especially when he says he does international trade and has multiple offices throughout the world.
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Hedfix
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on 08/06/2007 at 6:47:10PM
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I thought Tre had mellowed well over the coiurse of the series and definitely deserved to be in the final two over Tim (Tim? Simon then, just shows how much of an impression he's made!).
7/10 tasks won and it's easy to be arrogant when the people you're on the series with are mostly idiots.
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spoonbeast
"eat toast!"
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on 08/06/2007 at 3:35:02PM
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christinas is probably going to win it. But everything i've said usually is wrong or destined to be wrong and jinx the outcome. Even those from the past!
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Biggie Little Jr.
"LOLLERSKATES!"
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on 07/06/2007 at 8:47:22PM
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Geffdof wrote:
> Im glad Tre didnt get to the final. He had some good business
> skills, but he thought far too much of himself. There is a
> difference between confidence and arrogance. He was far to angry
> and defensive when questioned too. Sometime you need to admit
> defeat and move on but he had to much pride to do that.
Too much pride maybe, but good business accumen (sp?). As far as i'm concerned, Katie just couldn't be in the final because she's an ar**, Lohit wasn't good enough i'm afraid, and neither is Simon. Tre was definitely a better candidate than Simon Or Lohit, as proven by his contributions leading to success in the tasks. It should have been Tre Vs Christina. Simon's only in because he is very smart because of his priviliged upbringing. Agreed, Tre made a bit of a C*ck out of himself in that interview though, but he was still the stronger candidate.
By the way, they should have shown Katie that footage from the Bafta's when Richard Curtis said he wanted to kill her.
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Machie
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on 07/06/2007 at 12:46:04PM
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Simon is far too nervous. He keeps looking down and looking away from the people he talks to.
I enjoyed the banter between Katie and that one woman on that You're Fired program.
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Geffdof
"lets go back"
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on 07/06/2007 at 12:32:36PM
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Im glad Tre didnt get to the final. He had some good business skills, but he thought far too much of himself. There is a difference between confidence and arrogance. He was far to angry and defensive when questioned too. Sometime you need to admit defeat and move on but he had to much pride to do that.
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Vampyr
"Previously Vampyr"
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on 07/06/2007 at 10:46:18AM
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simon'll win, sir alan thinks hes great, or hed have got rid of him long ago when he lost tasks and did bad
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Biggie Little Jr.
"LOLLERSKATES!"
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on 07/06/2007 at 8:21:08AM
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A Katie quote; "Maternity leave and all that bull"
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spoonbeast
"eat toast!"
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on 06/06/2007 at 10:41:07PM
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Machie wrote:
> Wow that one guy is a brilliant land lord =D Not someone I want
> working for me.
>
> Had a feeling Katie would quit, I suppose it's good for Alex as
> he doesnt waste the spot in the final.
That was probably more on the fact she didn't want to humilitate herself or alan sugar when she left. She has far too much pride. She'd probably go for Death before dishonour.
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Biggie Little Jr.
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on 06/06/2007 at 10:37:25PM
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spoonbeast wrote:
> Biggie Little Jr. wrote:
> Katie must go, So must Simon, although Alan seems keen on Simon
> so i'm guessing a Simon V Christina final. Hopefully, and
> deservably, Tre will be in the final though.
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> what a brilliant guess you jammy git. Katie deserved to go
> especially when she was only doing it to massage her ego then
> anything else.
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> God did half of the final contestants look like crooks and liars
> out of the interviews.
;) Should have been Tre and Christina though, I think Tre's argumentative and defensive nature cost him, but the incompetance of Simon ultimately prevailed. Chritina for the job though, and thank God Katie wasn't in the final. Anyone see her big argument with that businesswoman on The Apprentice - You're Fired!?
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Machie
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on 06/06/2007 at 10:19:07PM
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Wow that one guy is a brilliant land lord =D Not someone I want working for me.
Had a feeling Katie would quit, I suppose it's good for Alex as he doesnt waste the spot in the final.
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spoonbeast
"eat toast!"
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on 06/06/2007 at 10:13:16PM
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Biggie Little Jr. wrote:
> Katie must go, So must Simon, although Alan seems keen on Simon
> so i'm guessing a Simon V Christina final. Hopefully, and
> deservably, Tre will be in the final though.
what a brilliant guess you jammy git. Katie deserved to go especially when she was only doing it to massage her ego then anything else.
God did half of the final contestants look like crooks and liars out of the interviews.
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Biggie Little Jr.
"LOLLERSKATES!"
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on 04/06/2007 at 10:13:56PM
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Katie must go, So must Simon, although Alan seems keen on Simon so i'm guessing a Simon V Christina final. Hopefully, and deservably, Tre will be in the final though.
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spoonbeast
"eat toast!"
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on 31/05/2007 at 10:08:39PM
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well, we'll see next week when we do a sacking bonanza and wipe out multiple people in one go.
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Vampyr
"Previously Vampyr"
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on 31/05/2007 at 8:41:56PM
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alan loves simon.
he clearly put lohit with the other girls, thinking theyd lose, so he could fire one of their sorry asses, but katie survived yet another lucky lucky week
he doesnt seem keen on lohit (if you remember his comments about him 2 weeks ago) but i think that he'll take simon through to the final. i really cant see him keeping katie, not with her attitude, i think the same goes for tre unless he sees an improvement in the next task. humble tre could accompany simon through. christina doesnt seem great, so i reckon if lohit doesnt arse up this interview thing, and shows alan some hunger, itll be him and simon going into the final.
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Hedfix
"8==="
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on 30/05/2007 at 10:51:42PM
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Was good.
They're all still crap though.
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spoonbeast
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on 30/05/2007 at 10:06:16PM
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Tonights episode was hilarious mostly because of the ritualistic humilitation that was available. Both did poorly in selling and crap products sold all round. I was gunning for simon to get fired as he lead the team from disaster to disaster. Whats more he was an ineffective in presenting and in the background.
Still, got to give it to him, he managed to picked (arbeit dubious) products that made money. But in my opininon crap acting and crap assistance in the background would have made him leave. Naiomi was fired for the products chosen that didn't sell, fair enough, but still simon deserved to leave.
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Machie
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on 30/05/2007 at 10:03:04PM
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Do you agree that blondie should have been fired? I want to say the wheelchair idea was bad but then they did end up selling 2 of them =/
Fiver says Mr Sugar will never hire Tre, he's just there to make things interesting.
I'll miss blondies chest. She provided us with a few cleavage shots tonight. =)
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Der Nazi
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on 30/05/2007 at 12:41:06PM
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Finally saw it last night, and for once neither team did paqrticularly badly, and it was nice to see Katie on the the winning team for once.
I want one of those South African rocking things purely for novelty value, and the portable light-box thing I can see as being actually quitea good idea, as sufferers of Seasonal Affective Disorder and yuppies alike would buy them. Rug kits? Not such a great idea, but if they came in a range of designs, I'd consider getting some.
Where was it lost? The products themselves (A light purifier with static? Too Bohemian, if not too risky!), and the failure to get their contacts sorted out the day before - in fact, that would have helped both teams a lot.
Still, not a bad effort from either team - for once, the losers weren't heavily beaten!
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spoonbeast
"eat toast!"
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on 24/05/2007 at 10:08:56PM
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Still giving off that much static is a cause of concern without some protection or the static stopped. What if it started a fire from a static discharge or something*
*I don't know, it could happen. Could cause meltdown or triggering something around the environment.
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Biggie Little Jr.
"LOLLERSKATES!"
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on 24/05/2007 at 7:12:48PM
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I hardly think an Air Purifier could kill you. I get the same sensation when I put my feet on the DVD recorder while touching my Ipod plugged into the USB, it just makes you jump a bit.
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spoonbeast
"eat toast!"
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on 24/05/2007 at 5:10:52PM
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to me, choosing the swedish stuff wasn't the best of ideas. Some how, it felt like we had seen it all before. Oh and the lamp that creates static should be rebranded as a health hazard. It could kill someone or hurt something.
But looking back, there aren't many decent goods on offer to the candidates.
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Biggie Little Jr.
"LOLLERSKATES!"
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on 24/05/2007 at 11:41:31AM
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I'm watching that at the moment, and they just showed a clip from the Baftas of the guy who won the fellowship Richard Curtis, the guy who wrote Vicar of Diblay, Blackadder, Four Weddings And A Funeral, Founder of Comic Relief, Campaigner against global poverty, and his closing line of his speech was "Me and the other members of the felloship will grow long beards and go out and kill that posh bird on The Apprentice".
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Machie
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on 24/05/2007 at 11:37:00AM
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She is to the presenter of that You're Fired thing on BBC2. Always showing her flirting and batting her eyelids at Sugar.
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Biggie Little Jr.
"LOLLERSKATES!"
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on 24/05/2007 at 11:33:50AM
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Everyone left in the competition at this stage is more worthy of getting the job than last years winner, I can assure you of that.
Tre has been kept in because he has won nearly every single task and is very good. Katie is hanging on by a thread and would have gone this week had she have lost. She'll be off next week though :) - Oh, and she's not that entertaining.
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Machie
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on 24/05/2007 at 11:26:08AM
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They're keeping Tre and Katie in for entertainment reasons =) I havent been following it much but my mum said she doesnt think any of them are worthy of winning compared to those in previous series.
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Biggie Little Jr.
"LOLLERSKATES!"
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on 24/05/2007 at 11:20:05AM
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The guy in the glasses (Lohit) has been quietly competent the entire time, and many people i've spoken to think he's certainly one of the favourites.
Katie should have been gone by now. She's sure to go next. Other than that they're all about on a par, except, like he says, Tre, and maybe Naomi as well. One of those 2 will win.
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Chaos
"Addicted to WoW atm"
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on 24/05/2007 at 1:36:04AM
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I do hate Katie (she's the snobbish one, that Sugar keeps mocking defeats at right?).
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Machie
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on 23/05/2007 at 10:32:19PM
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Yep, I knew that guy wouldnt be fired =) I think next time it'll be one of the other guys, probably the one with glasses.
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spoonbeast
"eat toast!"
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on 23/05/2007 at 10:06:33PM
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so tonights episode, if we have learnt anything is that if you act defiantly and arrogantly you live. A bit like iran.
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Biggie Little Jr.
"LOLLERSKATES!"
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on 18/05/2007 at 2:50:09PM
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Jam?
What a poor idea. At least the Street team had some knowledge of their subject area.
Margaret; "Could you tell me, what is the Bump 'N' Grind Revolution".
Classic ;)
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spoonbeast
"eat toast!"
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on 18/05/2007 at 2:00:40PM
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The street ad was just annoying. Chav mania and very anarch image.
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The Wardy
"Get It?Got It?Good!"
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on 18/05/2007 at 12:25:12AM
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I hated the JAM logo but i thought the STREET one looked decent.
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spoonbeast
"eat toast!"
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on 17/05/2007 at 10:30:44PM
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high production values, naff ad. A real shame. If they just made a proper use of logo like the other team, they would have won. Sadly screwed up big time and a realtively medicore ad won the day.
Are their street trainers on sale? or is that false advertising? A some what hypocrite message was displayed. "Sod big corporate brands! Buy our street label and become the next biggest company evah!
For some reason all girl teams seem to perform badly. Too many stuck up biatchs or something.
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