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Original Message posted by Machie on 31/01/2008 at 10:58:14AM
Sorry for stealing your thread Geffdof. Blimey it's been so long since the end of the last series, I can hardly remember what happened.

Anyway here's the article, I'll comment on the new episode when it's shown. Till then here's an interesting article. :)

5 Questions the Lost Writers Need to Answer (And Why They Won't)
 
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The Reaper
"Carrots SUCK"
on 14/06/2008 at 11:28:35AM
Total Posts: 3807
Geffdof wrote:
> Was anyone else expecting Lockes eyes to open while he was lying
> in the coffin? Kind of the way someones eyes always open at the
> start of an episode. Or was that just me?

Would've been a tad cheesy zombie film I think :)
 
Geffdof
"lets go back"
on 13/06/2008 at 11:57:32PM
Total Posts: 893
Was anyone else expecting Lockes eyes to open while he was lying in the coffin? Kind of the way someones eyes always open at the start of an episode. Or was that just me?
 
Luetchyboy
"I pity the fool"
on 11/06/2008 at 9:16:27AM
Total Posts: 166
Marink wrote:
> It's kinda funny when you see how the actors are really like
> compared to their characters (Just look at Diff'rent Strokes).
>
> As for the show, I somehow don't think Jin is dead yet, but if
> he is then he will likely make a couple of appearances in the
> future as a ghost or something like most of the other
> characters.
>
> I'd like to see where they are going with the numbers, as Hurley
> saw them again in his car in the future. Will he ever get away
> from them, or will he be forever reminded of the island?
>
> Also, perhaps Locke died as soon as he left the island for
> whatever purpose. The reason I think this is because of how he
> was in a wheelchair before he went on the island, and healed when
> they crashed on it. Maybe Ben killed him when he shot him, but
> you can only die when you leave the island (that guy who died in
> the force field came back). Maybe the others aren't ghosts?
>
> I'm confusing myself.


Locke definitely won't die as soon as he leaves the island as we know that he goes around visiting everyone who's off island trying to convince them come back. (Scenes I am very much looking forward to might I add.) I wouldn't go as far as ruling out Ben killing him, I hope he doesn't but knowning Ben...

I wonder what sort of ending we will get to show, I hope it involves everyone back on the island living happily ever after.
 
Nin
"Karma Drama"
on 10/06/2008 at 12:01:58AM
Edited: 10/6/08 0:03
Total Posts: 5781
Marink wrote:
> Also, perhaps Locke died as soon as he left the island for
> whatever purpose. The reason I think this is because of how he
> was in a wheelchair before he went on the island, and healed when
> they crashed on it. Maybe Ben killed him when he shot him, but
> you can only die when you leave the island (that guy who died in
> the force field came back). Maybe the others aren't ghosts?
>
> I'm confusing myself.

No-one is allowed to die unless the island allows it. Michael tried his best but nothing worked.
I want to know what happened to invincible guy. He went through the fence and died, got shot and died, then blew himself up and presumably died. I'm wondering if there are 2 groups of others, the ones Ben hired (Tom, Juliet etc who can die) and the natives who are seemingly invincible. The whispers tend to follow them as well.
I dont think Locke is dead either. It's either been faked or is part of a temporary plan to get them all to go back.
 
Marink
"What's basketball?"
on 09/06/2008 at 9:52:46PM
Edited: 9/6/08 21:53
Total Posts: 137
It's kinda funny when you see how the actors are really like compared to their characters (Just look at Diff'rent Strokes).

As for the show, I somehow don't think Jin is dead yet, but if he is then he will likely make a couple of appearances in the future as a ghost or something like most of the other characters.

I'd like to see where they are going with the numbers, as Hurley saw them again in his car in the future. Will he ever get away from them, or will he be forever reminded of the island?

Also, perhaps Locke died as soon as he left the island for whatever purpose. The reason I think this is because of how he was in a wheelchair before he went on the island, and healed when they crashed on it. Maybe Ben killed him when he shot him, but you can only die when you leave the island (that guy who died in the force field came back). Maybe the others aren't ghosts?

I'm confusing myself.
 
Luetchyboy
"I pity the fool"
on 09/06/2008 at 1:13:58PM
Total Posts: 166
Nin wrote:

> Doesn't sound right. He was an unknown actor and has barely done
> anything since. As far as i remember he asked for a release
> because both his parents died within months of each other.


Yeah that's part of it to I believe, apparently he was trying to make decisions for the future of the character, like the direction they should take with his character. I hope it wasn't in part due to him being difficult (though I guess that would be better than his parents dying :s)
 
Nin
"Karma Drama"
on 09/06/2008 at 11:54:51AM
Total Posts: 5781
Luetchyboy wrote:
> Eko they had bigger plans for but apparently there were issues
> with the actor i.e. he started thinking he was bigger than the
> show. It's a shame because I liked Eko too but that is the way it
> goes.

Doesn't sound right. He was an unknown actor and has barely done anything since. As far as i remember he asked for a release because both his parents died within months of each other.
 
Luetchyboy
"I pity the fool"
on 09/06/2008 at 11:39:04AM
Total Posts: 166
Alfonse the Turtle wrote:
> I hope Jin isn't dead. I don't know why they love killing my
> favourites so much =| (Eko, Jin and Charlie)


Eko they had bigger plans for but apparently there were issues with the actor i.e. he started thinking he was bigger than the show. It's a shame because I liked Eko too but that is the way it goes.

Charlie was cool but he had nowhere left to go. Plus it made for a great story for the season.

Jin, who knows? (The actor did get an DUI so it doesn't bode well for him!)
 
Alfonse the Turtle
"Better than Yurtle"
on 07/06/2008 at 5:27:15PM
Total Posts: 5775
I hope Jin isn't dead. I don't know why they love killing my favourites so much =| (Eko, Jin and Charlie)
 
Nin
"Karma Drama"
on 06/06/2008 at 5:43:17PM
Total Posts: 5781
Luetchyboy wrote:
> I also reckon that the last time the
> Island moved it popped up under a certain black rock boat.

Thats one of the better theories i've heard.
I loved Jack's denial about the island moving. Seeing him made to look like an idiot was tremendous.
 
Luetchyboy
"I pity the fool"
on 06/06/2008 at 5:28:05PM
Total Posts: 166
I am definitely begining to suspect that the orchid will move the island forward in time, I'm thinking around the period when ben is booted off the island and appears in the desert. But who knows what could happen next. All I do know is Cuse and Lindelof are geniuses! But 8 months :( till we get our next fix, I don't know if I can last!
 
The Reaper
"Carrots SUCK"
on 05/06/2008 at 8:36:44PM
Total Posts: 3807
Is anyone else speculating about when they moved the island? I mean, the Orchid station was clearly into black hole time travel stuff, so why not easily guess that not only have they moved it in space but in time too.
 
Luetchyboy
"I pity the fool"
on 04/06/2008 at 11:41:37AM
Total Posts: 166
Deleted scene from the economist,
Here
Wish they had left this scene in, really want to know more about miles and his hearing/talking to the dead power. It was barely touched upon at all this season. I guess in part thanks to the loss of two episodes due to the writers strike.
 
ButchML
"Get Set Jet Set"
on 04/06/2008 at 10:17:48AM
Total Posts: 119
pb wrote:
> Annoyingly I missed that thing on after the last Lost on Sky
> (Sky+ only got the first 5 mins).  Not sure if it had any more
> answers or useful information.  Did anyone see it?

My girlfriend did (I was watching Football) but she said basically it was a bunch of celebs talking about their favourite characters and stuff mostly but there was an interview with Curse and the other guy. From what she told me highlights include:

- We will not find out who/what Smokey is until the very last episode of season 6/ever
- They will not reveal what or who the island is until season 6
- And just because people are dead, they are not necessasarily dead on the island
 
pb
"Clean yr screen mr?"
on 04/06/2008 at 8:52:27AM
Total Posts: 6627
Annoyingly I missed that thing on after the last Lost on Sky (Sky+ only got the first 5 mins).  Not sure if it had any more answers or useful information.  Did anyone see it?
 
Luetchyboy
"I pity the fool"
on 03/06/2008 at 4:05:48PM
Total Posts: 166
Marink wrote:
> Well, the guy who plays Jack is starring in Speed Racer.
>
> I think the island moving explains how the plane was found under
> water. When the island moved, the plane didn't, and it just sank
> into the ocean. That's just my idea though.


Hmmm not quite, it was explained earlier on that widmore put a plane there as a decoy, when infact he knew it had crashed on the island.
 
Marink
"What's basketball?"
on 03/06/2008 at 3:28:16PM
Total Posts: 137
YH wrote:

> Are any of the cast going to be able to be in any other show or
> film no they have done this?

Well, the guy who plays Jack is starring in Speed Racer.

I think the island moving explains how the plane was found under water. When the island moved, the plane didn't, and it just sank into the ocean. That's just my idea though.
 
Luetchyboy
"I pity the fool"
on 03/06/2008 at 12:55:37PM
Total Posts: 166
It is a shame he's basically gone almost as far as to say it was a racist decision. Admitatly his character seemed to server very little purpose this season, but it is important to remember that we lost 2 episodes this season (they did add an extra episode for the finale) so we don't know what we have lost character development wise this season. I'm almost certain we would've got more from Miles and Daniel, but that is not to say that we wouldn't have got more from Michael.

I don't think we are done with Walt however. But I don't think we'll be seeing Michael again. (Not longer than a cameo appearance anyway.)

As for Jin, who knows, don't forget the actor got a DUI and in LOST that usually means bye-bye!

Also I read somewhere that the actress who plays Claire has essentially had her contract put on hold, basically meaning she will not be appearing much if at all in season 5, but in season 6.
 
pb
"Clean yr screen mr?"
on 03/06/2008 at 12:43:49PM
Edited: 3/6/08 12:44
Total Posts: 6627
I think Perrineau is reading far too much into it.  He'll end up appologising for this, you wait and see.

Anyway.  Is 'he' dead on the island as well, or just in the 'real world'?  He could still be going on the island and his body turns up in a coffin as well.  It seems no-one is truly dead in Lost.
 
Luetchyboy
"I pity the fool"
on 03/06/2008 at 12:17:22PM
Total Posts: 166
Harold Perrineau Upset Over His 'Lost' Exit

While 'Lost's season finale left the door open on the fate of several characters, including Claire, Jin and Daniel Faraday, it definitively sealed Michael's fate.

And Harold Perrineau, who plays the character, is upset over his exit and wonders if coming back for the season was worth it in the end.

In an interview with TV Guide, Perrineau says he had "no idea" that Michael would be killed off at the end of the season, and didn't find out the fate of his character until the finale scripts were out.

"I'm disappointed, mostly because I wanted Michael and Walt to have a happy ending. I was hoping Michael would get it together and actually want to be a father to his kid and try to figure out a way to get back home. But this is their story. If I were writing it, I would write it differently."

"This is their show and they know what they can or cannot write. I thought it was disappointing and a waste to come back, only to get beat up a few times and then killed. I felt like it was sort of pandering to some fans who wanted to see Michael punished because he betrayed people."

Perrineau says, "I honestly feel like Michael's death served a really weird bloodlust for the fans."

He then goes on to say that somehow the decision to not continue with his character was influenced by another factor: "Listen, if I'm being really candid, there are all these questions about how they respond to black people on the show. Sayid gets to meet Nadia again, and Desmond and Penny hook up again, but a little black boy and his father hooking up, that wasn't interesting? Instead, Walt just winds up being another fatherless child. It plays into a really big, weird stereotype and, being a black person myself, that wasn't so interesting."

Even with that said, Perrineau adds that he would be open to returning to the show, as dead characters often do, but he would have to know what was happening story-wise first so he isn't surprised again.

In the meantime, he's joined the cast of ABC's one-hour pilot for 'The Unusuals', a drama/comedy set at a New York police station.

http://www.tvshark.com/read/?art=arc1897





Shame he has to act like that about things. Michaels character was always going to get some form of punishment, he sold his soul to get away from the island. Was never going to end happily for him.
 
Luetchyboy
"I pity the fool"
on 03/06/2008 at 12:11:54PM
Edited: 3/6/08 12:18
Total Posts: 166
WOW WOW WOW,

What a finale, LOST took a step up and knocked out any opponents for the BEST t.v. show ever.

THEY MOVED THE ISLAND

Just look at that statement, who would've thought at the begining of season 1 that we would be at this point and loving it so much.

Some of the things I loved

-Keamy vs. Sayid
-Whispers before Keamy and his men were attacked.
-Locke forgiving Jack even though he is a tool and continues to be
-Desmond and Penny back together! YAY!
-The freaking island moving
-Bens apparent (at least partial) redemption
-Michael being told he can go now.
-Sawyers sacrifice
-Daniel Faraday
-Future Sayid becoming a psychopath
-Future Ben and Jack looking at "Jeremy Bentham" ;)

Things I didn't Like
-Kate


So where do you all think things are going from here? I reckon the island will be moving forward to the same point where Ben appears in the desert. I also reckon that the last time the Island moved it popped up under a certain black rock boat.

You guys see the alternate endings?

Check it out:
Here
 
Nin
"Karma Drama"
on 02/06/2008 at 12:36:36PM
Total Posts: 5781
YH wrote:
> Saw these last night.
>
> Ben obviously knew what he was doing when he killed Rambo and
> let the boat blow up. Presumably didn't want anyone leaving to
> blab about the island itself.

Yeah that was my feeling. He went for it with that knife though.

> I'd go along with the ancient civilisation stuff too. But
> wherever the island was moved to, Locke must have known the
> bearing he needed to leave it so he could try and persuade the
> others to come back.

I assumed he just used the teleporter but then Ben blew it up.

> Same with the Kate/Claire thing.

That was a dream. I dont get why dream-Claire is saying not to bring Aaron back when Ben is doing exactly the opposite.
 
YH
on 02/06/2008 at 12:29:25PM
Total Posts: 382
Saw these last night.

Ben obviously knew what he was doing when he killed Rambo and let the boat blow up. Presumably didn't want anyone leaving to blab about the island itself.

I'd go along with the ancient civilisation stuff too. But wherever the island was moved to, Locke must have known the bearing he needed to leave it so he could try and persuade the others to come back.

Perhaps Benry can go back, if he is with the others?

Is Hurley really seeing Mr Eko etc, or is it all in his mind?

Same with the Kate/Claire thing.

Can anyone else really wait 9 months to the next episode?

Are any of the cast going to be able to be in any other show or film no they have done this?
 
Nin
"Karma Drama"
on 02/06/2008 at 11:04:24AM
Total Posts: 5781
I cant remember how far Dan's gang had travelled when the island disappeared. For some reason i think it's more likely they didnt get taken with the island. There's also the possibility of Jin being picked up by them. You'd imagine he wouldnt have been stupid enough to stand on the deck knowing the boat is about to blowup.
Locke dead? We'll see about that. Evidently he wasn't as good a leader as Ben, which is no suprise to anyone really. Still suicide seems completely unlike him.
I'm looking forward to seeing what 3 years on the island would do to the losties, assuming they survive at all. They're heavily outnumbered now by the tribals.
 
ButchML
"Get Set Jet Set"
on 02/06/2008 at 10:00:12AM
Total Posts: 119
Nin wrote:
> I think the best moment would probably be the one they didnt even
> show.
>
> * Daniel and crew on the boat heading to the freighter *
>
> Hurrah! Rescue!
>
> * Freighter blows up *
>
> Oh well, back to the island then.
>
> ...

Yeah we were wondering what happened to these guys, my theory is that they will eventually pick up Jin (Who wont be dead) and end up somewhere, only problem with that is there was no mention of them 3 years in the future... Maybe they were close enough to the island to get moved with it?

The big teleportation wheel thing further confirms there was an 'ancient' civilisation on the island before Dharma, maybe even the hostiles. I'm guessing that the room Ben entered to summon smokey a couple of weeks back was similar to this one except maybe a bt warmer as he was covering in soot or smoke or something afterward. Oh, and Whitmore obviously knew about the true nature of the Orchid, what are the chances that he moved the island in the past which is he why he cant go back?

So Locke is dead, to be honest we guessed it was him, but what does this mean for the island? Is Ben now back in control and this is all part of his master plan? It would be a typical Ben manipulation move. Obviously he ws still being watched as he was giving a fake name, I am curious as to find out exactly what could happen to the island that could be so bad that Locke would leave in order to get the other 6 back?

Finally did anyone else find it strange that Sawyer, although obviously swimming back ti shore, did not hear the MASSIVE explosion on the boat that was heard on the island? I would have thought there would have been a half decent sized wave also..

More if I remember/get time!
 
Nin
"Karma Drama"
on 31/05/2008 at 11:53:48PM
Total Posts: 5781
I think the best moment would probably be the one they didnt even show.

* Daniel and crew on the boat heading to the freighter *

Hurrah! Rescue!

* Freighter blows up *

Oh well, back to the island then.

...
 
The Reaper
"Carrots SUCK"
on 31/05/2008 at 11:37:54PM
Total Posts: 3807
I'm... as speechless as all of you... Give me a couple of minutes here.
 
McLong
on 31/05/2008 at 9:00:08AM
Total Posts: 146
Well, I don't really know what to say...

You say something Nin and I'll just agree!
 
Nin
"Karma Drama"
on 31/05/2008 at 1:12:41AM
Total Posts: 5781
So no-one's got anything to say? And you call yourself Lost fans? You dont deserve to know who's in the casket!
 
Nin
"Karma Drama"
on 30/05/2008 at 4:24:29PM
Total Posts: 5781
Well... i dont even know where to start on all of that. Evidently fate is indeed a fickle bitch.
 
Marink
"What's basketball?"
on 30/05/2008 at 10:11:16AM
Total Posts: 137
I reckon everybody on the island were all linked somehow before they got on it.
 
Nin
"Karma Drama"
on 27/05/2008 at 11:36:46PM
Total Posts: 5781
Only 2 days away now. Just wish i could watch it on TV instead of the pc. F**king Sky, tv stealing basts
 
The Reaper
"Carrots SUCK"
on 27/05/2008 at 11:25:09PM
Total Posts: 3807
Cheers for that interview Luetchyboy, can't believe they were going to write off Henry/Ben after a few weeks!
 
Luetchyboy
"I pity the fool"
on 23/05/2008 at 9:09:12AM
Edited: 23/5/08 10:56
Total Posts: 166
Interview with Michael Emerson (Ben)


Actor drops a few clues to season finale


For a "Lost" fan, talking to Michael Emerson on the phone is a bit like talking to the devil, if the devil was extremely polite, a gifted actor and had an Emmy win under his belt.

We had a chance to talk with the actor, who portrays Benjamin Linus on the hit ABC drama, about his Florida beginnings, his penchant for playing bad guys and what we can expect in next week's season finale.

Q. First off, congratulations on a stellar performance this season on "Lost." Our readers were very excited about the opportunity to hear from you.

That's exciting, thank you. I'm glad he's working for you. I think the character is really well written. I'm happy that whatever my bag of actor tricks is, it seems to be appropriate for this role.

Q. Now I heard you taught at Flagler College in St. Augustine. Is that true?

Yes, I taught drawing there as an adjunct for two years in the early '80s. This was before I was an actor. I had just moved south. I was working as a magazine illustrator in New York and then I moved to St. Augustine where I was just sort of working my way out of that line of work. It was a wonderful time and really highly educational for me.

Q. You were really big in the Jacksonville theater scene. What was that experience like?

That's really where I got started. I wasn't a kid anymore. I had moved south due to a romantic entanglement that also went south. I was high and dry living in St. Augustine. I did a couple of plays in St. Augustine and then I moved to Jacksonville. I was piecing together a living 40 different ways.

Q. The character you play started out as Henry Gale and was only supposed to be around for three episodes. How did you feel when you learned that the paycheck would be a bit more steady?

As soon as I got the script, I thought this is a really intriguing character and he's mysterious enough that they ought to let it run for a while. I guess all of us guest spot actors though have this kernel of a dream somewhere that we're gonna make such an impression in our little guest spot that somebody's gonna want to keep us around.

Q. You've played Zep Hindle in "Saw," won an Emmy as serial killer William Hinks on "The Practice" and now Ben Linus. Are you drawn to these bad guy roles?

No, but somebody is drawn to the idea of me playing them. I don't know who that is and I'm not sure whether to thank them or give them a smack. In my life on the stage, I'm usually in funny plays. It's a little bit of a mystery to me. That seems to be what's so interesting about the character that there is that manipulative genius angle but also a bit of vulnerability and compassion. Yeah, I think as season four has progressed, Ben is being moved inch by inch towards the more sympathetic end of the scale. Something's going on there. I've always maintained, sort of half in jest that eventually Ben would be the good guy.

Q. How familiar were you with "Lost" before you were cast in it?

I was fairly familiar with it. I mean the fanatic in our house was my wife (Carrie Preston). She never missed an episode. I'd sort of catch some while she watched and I was doing dishes or something.

Q. And she wound up playing your character's mother in your flashback episode.

That was kooky. It's great to have your spouse on the set with you, although we didn't have any scenes together, and now she's a bona fide member of the "Lost" family. And I'm thinking maybe that's not the last time we see her. Something has to be revisited there in Ben's childhood.

Q. You often talk about the balance of the island. What do you mean by that?

Well, the show operates on a lot of levels. But it operates in this sort of allegory. It's a tale of sin and redemption. All the characters have some wrong or some dark chapter of their past and it must be sort of atoned for. Nothing happens on the island without some kind of cost. For example, if Ben is somehow able to activate the smoke monster, I don't think that comes for free. I think he has to give something up. We don't know what that is yet, but I don't think it's something he can do three or four times a day.

Q. You've gotten some of the best lines on the show as far as I'm concerned, from "Destiny is a fickle bitch" to "See you guys at dinner." What has been your favorite, if not line, then scene since being on the show?

They do give me some good stuff. The lines are always cooler than the moment would suggest it should be. I'll tell you something that was fun. I had a scene with Hurley (Jorge Garcia) last week where we shared a candy bar. Hurley and Ben sitting on a log at night sharing a candy bar. It makes me laugh just to think about it.

Q. What lengths do producers go to to prevent spoilers on a show like "Lost"?

Sometimes they go to crazy lengths. The script in the finale had blan