Although this may be the case in your scenario, you still need to take into consideration the forum rules.

Click here for a reminder.

Although it is not against the Forum rules to discuss drugs, I do not believe this to be of any interest to regular users of the forums. We are also aware that a fair amount of our users are children, therefore we would likely not find this topic appropriate, therefore would probably be removed.

This may well be the case.

I do not know what is of interest of our users, but I can take a fairly educated guess at what would be. Even if this was the case and they did wish to discuss drugs, unfortunately this forum would still not be the place to do so, as I stated before a fair amount of users of this forum are children, we do not believe this is appropriate.

motomoto wrote:

> Although it is not against the Forum rules to discuss drugs, I
> do not believe this to be of any interest to regular users of the
> forums. We are also aware that a fair amount of our users are
> children, therefore we would likely not find this topic
> appropriate, therefore would probably be removed.

So if I talk about drugs I will be banned simply because you believe it isn't of interest to other users?

So basically you're saying you decide what is discussed on an open forum and those who do not conform and comply will be ejected.

Good going, Francisco

Banned? At no point have I stated that a member would be banned. The thread would be removed not the user. If the user persisted in trying to create discussions on that particular topic, they may then be removed.

Clearly that is not what motomoto is saying.

As funny as we all think you are with your almost breaking the rules posts, it's probably time to stop.

The Freeola forums do have rules - which we do not have to justify to our users. The rules are clear and really quite easy to follow and if you need to have another read of them you can do so here

Likening motomoto to Franco, who you will probably agree, was responsible for a little more than moderating a forum, is stupid.

If you wish to be a part of the Freeola forums then great, we always want to increase the size of the community, but if you are here just to disrupt and annoy our existing members then I'm sure there's another forum somewhere which will welcome you with open arms.

Numnut wrote:
> Clearly that is not what motomoto is saying.

Er
Yes it is

"If the user persisted in trying to create discussions on that particular topic, they may then be removed."

With the topic being one that he does not believe other users have an interest in. Not one that contravenes the rules or anything, oh no.

Are you calling me an idiot
I find that highly offensive

I'm reporting you to the appropriate authorities

Numnut wrote:
> The Freeola forums do have rules - which we do not have to
> justify to our users.

IMO this isn't a particularly healthy attitude for a forum

just my two cents

So by including an overarching, all encompassing rule that covers literally every single post made, you allow yourselves to basically ban who you want without justification or explanation.

Maybe here you see the Franco comparison?
Hmmm?

Steel Protagonist wrote:
> "We welcome freedom of speech"
>
> Good to know

To quote the rules

"We welcome freedom of speech, but ill-informed, ignorant comments will not be accepted."

Steel Protagonist wrote:
> I fail to see your point.
>
> Ignorant comments and potentially controversial comments are two
> completely different things. You're basically saying that unless
> you deem it to be "of any interest to regular users",
> without any way of backing such a claim up, the topic will most
> likely be removed.

This is incorrect. If the thread is of no interest to regular users, what is the point of posting in the first place? That was the point that was made. I did not indicate that this is the reason a post be removed.

Posts will be removed if they are deemed as inappropriate for the potential viewers or current viewers of the Freeola forums.

One of the Rules:

Do not troll or cause trouble - Anyone found to be purposely winding up other users (trolling) or causing trouble (eg. trying to break the site, using other people's usernames etc.) will be warned - we're providing a place for you to visit, and we'd ask you to respect our rules and behave yourself. If you cannot follow these simple regulations then we will have to ask you to leave. If necessary, we can pass your details on to higher authority should we deem it a serious enough offence.

A number of 'new' or returning users seem to have missed this one.

We will not remove posts because we do not like the content, but because they are in breach of the rules - in that they are not appropriate, disruptive etc.

As forum moderators the responsibility falls on us here at Freeola to make sure the rules of the forums are followed. This is for the protection of the whole forum community, some of these members may be minors and certain topics will clearly not be suitable.

Please bear this in mind when using the Freeola forums.

Both motomoto and myself consider this matter closed, there is no point covering the same ground over and over.

Numnut wrote:
>  If necessary, we can pass your details on to higher
> authority should we deem it a serious enough offence.
>
> A number of 'new' or returning users seem to have missed this
> one.

I am under the understanding the only arrests made for 'trolling' on an internet site are from continuously linking to pornography.

I'm not quite sure how seriously the police will take you if someone was starting a topic to discuss something that people might not be interested in.

The reason that pushed me over the edge of leaving this forum the last time was a topic where someone was trying to discuss their abuse as a child being deleted. I'm pretty sure one person, at least, was highly interested in talking about that.

I know it's a difficult job, but sadly the word moderation comes with a definition. It kinda has to remain the centre of a balanced argument, not cause them. Considering the recent banning of a large group of people for difficult reasons to explain other than the speed in which the replies came, I'm thinking perhaps judging individual posts in moderation might require a bit of thinking outside the box.

As for a balanced argument, would a topic about how horrible people are who take drugs and how they should have be punished for it get deleted, if it was made by the younger audience? In terms of moderation I don't see that as a balanced argument, and I imagine it'd be left well alone until someone actually did bring a counter-argument towards it.

Can I say it was my post about the child abuse that happened to me that had gotten deleted.  It was removed upon my request as several of your friends Grix decided it was funny to ridicule me.  Hence why I dislike the fact you've all come back to cause trouble. 

If freeola doesn't provide a forum that satisfies your discussion topics, finish this trouble and move to one that does.  It's not that difficult.  And as you are all old enough and intelligent enough to discuss subjects like depression, drugs, abuse and the like then I would have thought you would have worked that out for yourself.

since when was anyone hateful towards you sonic chris?

I think all of this is one of the biggest overreactions I've ever seen on the internet like

Beedle wrote:
> motomoto wrote:
> I can safely say
> that a user would not be banned without a good reason
>
> Can I
> debate this or will my post be removed because people do not wish
> to discuss this?

And in reply to you 'beedle', i'll presume your damarus, maybe if you had been mature and actually questioned your banning, maybe you might've been let back on. But no, you went the idiotic way, and decided to spam the forum and abuse members. And you want to be unbanned?! You must be kidding...

I don't remember abusing anyone in this whole ordeal

trolled you to death?

with what, 20 posts in one topic which all got deleted? almost all of which were totally innocuous?



you should be happy that suddenly there are twice as many users to talk to on the site, rather than leaving straight away IMO

It's not necessarily just you, it's all the idiots who came along with you aswell. Abuse.. You bullied pete out of the forums by taking the micky out of his name, making fun of the forum rules (eg.'this is a family forum'-LOOK AT THE POST ABOVE). Don't begin to act all innocent. You've destroyed the forums for everyone, and now there aren't any people left. Usually, right now, a normal thread would be posted on a normal topic, with discussion, maybe people would write reviews or add cheats or talk about how stupid tube fares are. But no, instead, i'm telling you how you and your chums have wrecked it all.