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Be Green-er
"Proud Gashead!"
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on 21/04/2008 at 1:03:49PM
Edited: 6/7/09 15:40
Total Posts: 2721
Original Post:
Ok, all these years of maintaining that hippyman is not a hippy, he is going to post a thread that somehow undoes all that.

Currently, I am scared stiff of using anything electrical due to the recurring adverts on TV that the world is going to be doomed with global warming with the seas boiling away until we are all vaporised.  Plus I am increasingly aware of the ever rising price of gas and electricity (not directly, but quite often I've had to prise the power bill away from my parents' hands after they've enarly passed out on how much they have to pay).

So, more down to guilt of using power than wanting to single-handedly save the world, I've gathered a list of ways to help your home to be energy efficient and save you money.  Maybe that way I can rid the guilt...  Please feel free to post your own ways of doing this, and I'll update the list if it takes off.  Maybe it's something the freeola offices may even consider doing.

Most of these are known, but it's a start:


Don't use the standby function  8-10% of all electricity used in the home is used to power appliances on standby.  Turning off fully can save the typical household £37 a year and if the whole nation does it, we can save 4m tonnes of excess CO2 being released into the atmosphere.

Link to source
Stats from the BBC (Thanks pb)

Switch off at the plug  Many devices use a power adapter that remains on constantly even though they are not being used. On average, 10 of these are plugged in around the clock in every home, which means an extra 360KWh of wasted energy a year.

Switch out the lights  Easy thing to do and can save £££.  Average bulb uses 60W an hour.  Turning it off for an extra hour per day will save 22,000W over the year.  Also stop to think if it is necessary for a light to be on.

Energy efficient light bulbs as 10-15% of all electricity used in the household is usually for the lighting, using a lower power bulb can save £££.  In fact, a typical energy efficient bulb can save £100 over the lifetime of the bulb.  Most use 80% less power, yet still can provide the same amount of lighting, as well as lasting 10-12 times longer. 

Don't boil more than you need  Not only will it mean your water will boil much quicker, you save a lot of power by not boiling the water you don't actually need.  Find out how much water you need by filling the container with water and pouring that into the kettle (plus a little bit to compensate for evaporation).

Foil back radiators  To reflect the heat of your radiator back in.  This is particularly important on outer walls as it stops the heat escaping outside. This will mean less energy is wasted and will mean less £££ spent on the heating.

Wear a jumper  rather than putting on the heating or turning up the thermostat.  Try adjusting it so the heating is used for two hours less a day and see how much it saves you.

Hang dry clothing  rather than use a tumble drier or equivalent.  Best done outdoors as it freshens the clothing as well, but if it's wet, hang them to dry indoors - away from radiators, so that you can maintain the efficiency of them for heating the room.

Keep the fridge freezer full  As this makes it more efficient and means the motor actually has to work less to keep everything cold.  If you don't have a full fridge as shopping day is around the corner, fill up bottles of water or carrier bags full of newspaper to help fill the space. 

1oC less can make a difference  Turn the thermostat down by just 1 degree, combined with using the heating less will again save energy and money.

Get your boiler serviced at least once a year This will help keep it as efficient as possible. The cost of a service is usually much less than the cost of the extra fuel the boiler would otherwise burn over the course of the year. (Eccles)

Loft insulation Fairly cheap from most DIY stores and relatively easy to install. Make sure it's at least 2.5" thick and goes over any rafters and not just between them. Oh and while you're up in the roof space: Lag your water pipes. (Eccles)

Cool store for Eco things (I don't care if these are eco, some seem pretty cool for what they are)

Recycled products lead to an eco lifestyle, which we must all improve one small step every day. Recycling and then buying products made from recycled materials is key!  (Geoecostore)
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hippyman
"Proud Gashead!"
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on 21/04/2008 at 1:12:18PM
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Plus I'm getting no end of e-mails saying to do my bit.  feel free to ignore this if needs be.  At least it makes me feel as though I'm trying to do good...probably be better if wasn't spending all day and night on my laptop or 360 though...
pb
"Shoryuken!"
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on 21/04/2008 at 2:27:52PM
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I don't think the figures for Standby are correct, there have been other independent tests that show an average household's standby costs of being about 5p per year at the most.

But the other ideas are good to follow, we've used energy saving lightbulbs for years now and they are even giving us free ones from work every so often (we have a Green team which looks after the building's environmental impact and encourages staff to think about green issues).
spoonbeast
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on 21/04/2008 at 4:13:10PM
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Don't boil more than you need  Not only will it mean your water will boil much quicker, you save a lot of power by not boiling the water you don't actually need.  Find out how much water you need by filling the container with water and pouring that into the kettle (plus a little bit to compensate for evaporation).

This rule doesn't apply to me. I boil lots of water. I don't use all of it in tea so i store it all in a jug and drink that. Tastes different to tap water. But if needed i could drink from the tap.

I also use a humidifier it draws in all the cold air/moisture condenses it into water and produces heat. Its great, the rooms are made considerbly warmer and saves increasing the temp of the heaters.

I do switch off the computer at the mains and only the cable box and vcr are on standby.
hippyman
"Proud Gashead!"
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on 21/04/2008 at 4:13:40PM
Edited: 21/4/08 16:18
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pb wrote
> I don't think the figures for Standby are correct, there have
> been other independent tests that show an average household's
> standby costs of being about 5p per year at the most.

I guess it varies device by device and household to household.  Still a bit of a waste.  I will have a look again at where these test results have been published and will amend it accordingly.

(EDIT: Updated with source)

> But the other ideas are good to follow, we've used energy saving
> lightbulbs for years now and they are even giving us free ones
> from work every so often (we have a Green team which looks after
> the building's environmental impact and encourages staff to think
> about green issues)

I think most companies should follow that.  I'm not too worried myself about global warming, as I think it's on a cycle.  I do think we should onserve energy for other reasons (save money and conserve fuel reserves).

I'm trying to get one of those OWL device things that detect how much electricity you are using and works out how much it is costing to the second.  If I did get one I'd imagine my house would be dark, silent and cold...
pb
"Shoryuken!"
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on 21/04/2008 at 4:33:50PM
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The standby modes on electronic devices account for 8% of all British domestic power consumption according to a 2006 study by the British Government, while the US is at 10% or more.

The BBC had a page with some standby info:
Here
hippyman
"Proud Gashead!"
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on 21/04/2008 at 4:44:31PM
Total Posts: 2721
Just added the link

pb wrote:
> The standby modes on electronic devices account for 8% of all
> British domestic power consumption according to a 2006 study by
> the British Government, while the US is at 10% or more.

Actually quite astonishing that it requires that much energy to be "ready" when it is next needed. But it doesn't surprise me that the US stat is higher.

Just going to add a link to an online "eco" shop.  Not for people to radically change there lives with but there are some fantastic novelties on there

Nigel's Eco Store
Eccles
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on 21/04/2008 at 5:23:22PM
Edited: 21/4/08 17:27
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There was a device on BBC's Dragons Den that is now on sale (seen it on Ebuyer), called the StandBy saver. It's basically a strip of sockets with an infra red remote. You use the remote that comes with it to cut the electricity to any devices plugged in and it contains a battery to maintain just enough power to allow the remote to turn it on again. I don't think they secured the patent as I've seen similar devices around. Sadly all of them miss out on including surge protection, which seems silly.

Anyway, the world is grossly overpopulated and the way things are going is just natures way of restoring the balance again. Unfortunately this will mean millions or billions of people will die but then we are never above the force of nature. Even if we saved all the energy we could and all 'did out bit' there still wouldn't be enough food to go round.

But to add to the list:

Get your boiler serviced at least once a year This will help keep it as efficient as possible. The cost of a service is usually much less than the cost of the extra fuel the boiler would otherwise burn over the course of the year.

Loft insulation Fairly cheap from most DIY stores and relatively easy to install. Make sure it's at least 2.5" thick and goes over any rafters and not just between them. Oh and while you're up in the roof space: Lag your water pipes.
Coo Coo
"cachoo"
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on 21/04/2008 at 6:20:29PM
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I'm obsessive about leaving things on standby. Gotta go off.
I can't die ag...
"The DEPRESSOR"
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on 21/04/2008 at 6:33:26PM
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on 26/04/2008 at 3:50:20PM
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i gotta have everthing off at the plug or i go mad,, well u  gotta save the world aint you?,,
Goecostore
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on 05/07/2009 at 2:26:13PM
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Recycled products lead to an eco lifestyle, which we must all improve one small step every day. Recycling and then buying products made from recycled materials is key!
Warhunt
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on 05/07/2009 at 4:19:51PM
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Hi and welcome to the forums. Nice to see old posts renewed once in a while. A year down the line has anyone updated the views on eco friendly things?

Generally I believe if its gonna happen, it will happen. We have messed the Earth up, only natural that she will "mess us up" in return ;)
Garin
"Devil in disguise"
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on 05/07/2009 at 4:39:01PM
Total Posts: 2074
Warhunt wrote:
> Hi and welcome to the forums. Nice to see old posts renewed once
> in a while. A year down the line has anyone updated the views on
> eco friendly things?

I'm pretty eco conscious and have been for a long time. Each passing year makes me realise how utterly pointless it is though. :)
Hmmm...
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on 05/07/2009 at 5:02:02PM
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Warhunt wrote:
> Hi and welcome to the forums...


Let's hope they contribute regularly and don't just post just the once promoting their store though!

/cynic  ;¬)






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Warhunt
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on 06/07/2009 at 2:45:36PM
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Hmmm... wrote:

> Let's hope they contribute regularly and don't just post just
> the once promoting their store though!
>
> /cynic  ;¬)
>


And we all know the answer to that ;)
spoonbeast
"eat toast!"
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on 06/07/2009 at 10:58:43PM
Total Posts: 937
speaking of green. Has anyone heard about the new driving test criteria? Apparently starting from 3 weeks time, driving students will now be tested on how environmentally friendly their driving is.

Apparently the criteria is that you can't rev the car up to 20 in towns and 30 on dual carriage ways and motorways, so no lead foots and slower accelerating and more frequent changing of higer gears so that you can build up the speed without going too far over the 20 limited.

At first it can be extremely tedious and annoying espeically how speed is key on roundabouts etc, but once you do get use to it its actually ok.

But that of course requires you to be calm and focused at all times. Frankly extremely difficult when you're losing your patience having botched your mock test.
LukeM
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on 07/07/2009 at 10:36:21AM
Total Posts: 70
I find this green issue strange, I mean energy usage = money and energy usage = global warming, scrooge wouldn't give a monkey about global warming but I am sure he would be happy to know he could save money. Saving the world is just a by-product.

So why haven't we all saved the world already and saved ourselves a few pennies too? Nuts.
pb
"Shoryuken!"
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on 07/07/2009 at 11:12:05AM
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LukeM wrote:
> I find this green issue strange, I mean energy usage = money and
> energy usage = global warming, scrooge wouldn't give a monkey
> about global warming but I am sure he would be happy to know he
> could save money. Saving the world is just a by-product.
>
> So why haven't we all saved the world already and saved
> ourselves a few pennies too? Nuts.

I agree, but then it's educating people with the facts and then educating ourselves to change the way we live.

For quite a while now I've been very careful to mark out the exact number of cups of water needed for tea or coffee in our kettle.  We've given the children showers where possible instead of baths every day and we've recycled water for the garden (luckily/unluckily we don't have a tap at the back of our house, despite asking the builders at the time to put one in, so no hosepipe for us).

Work has been very good and since opening the Exeter office I've been able to go in by bus every day, just using the car one day a week for going to our Tiverton office (which will hopefully be closed down at the end of the year).  Saved money on fuel as the bus is subsidised by the company anyway.

Every light in our house has energy saving lightbulbs and TVs etc go off in the evening instead of standby (though there's still debate about this having a detrimental effect on the life of the equipment).

But I can do more, I know.
Warhunt
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on 07/07/2009 at 12:04:03PM
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I am pretty easy going with elec to be honest.. I replace all the lightbulbs with energy savers, and turn everything off rather than standby. Obviously do not "waste" where I can, but do not really do much.

Luke has a point though, it saves us money so why are we not? :S
LukeM
"Imperfection"
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on 07/07/2009 at 12:08:49PM
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@pb: I think you are currently doing more than most :o
hippyman
"Proud Gashead!"
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on 08/07/2009 at 8:22:37AM
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Warhunt wrote:
> Luke has a point though, it saves us money so why are we not? :S

Because we are lazy.

I am particularly bad when it comes for a clearout in my room. Sometimes so fraught for time that I lump all the stuff into one bag and bin it. 

I do however, turn off my electricity at the wall and remove any non-essential plugs from a socket that I leave on for the air filter in my room (which will be going off as soon as the hayfever season ends).  I also donate lots of old clothing to charity shops...which I suppose saves time, effort, packaging, electricity and disappointment trying (and failing) to sell it on eBay :P
Warhunt
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on 08/07/2009 at 4:34:24PM
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Ironically the "Green Britain Day" has just started advertising on TV, as this thread is renewed :S

Anyone got any plans? I might hug a tree on my way to work.....
hippyman
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on 08/07/2009 at 9:28:48PM
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I may hug the Big Issue seller.

Actually I'd rather hug a man-eating tree.  May have more of a chance of escaping one of them!
Warhunt
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hippyman wrote:
> I may hug the Big Issue seller.
>
> Actually I'd rather hug a man-eating tree.  May have more of a
> chance of escaping one of them!

Shamefully I have actually done that :(

Hugged one that is not worked as one (is worked the correct term?) Was having a laugh with the girl though so it was all fun.
 
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