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on 08/09/2005 at 11:29:53AM
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The Outfit:
Click Here
Destructable Environments.
Destruction on Demand.
Its Mercenaries but in WWII.
*Drools* |
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Hedfix
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on 08/09/2005 at 11:55:54AM
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Should be good, just looked at their back catalogue and everything's 8.3 or higher on IGN (out of 7/8 games).
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Tiltawhirl
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on 08/09/2005 at 12:17:56PM
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It definetly looks like a gooden.
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Bonus
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on 08/09/2005 at 1:17:45PM
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Do we really need more World War 2 games flooding the market and glorifying an era which saw millions killed, persecuted and treated like mere animals?
I doubt it.
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on 08/09/2005 at 1:18:14PM
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Ok, maybe it's not a world war 2 game :-).
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OddToe
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on 08/09/2005 at 1:27:38PM
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Bonus, I started writing a post to justify what I thought about WWII games. You're point has got me stumped.
So erm...I really enjoy WWII games. I have a fascination with WWI and WWII, I would rather watch a program about WWII than the go and see the latest film.
It's weird.
But yeh, perhaps games shouldn't be made about something that was so terrible, but in alot of games today it brings home the affects of war. Such as in Brothers in Arms.
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on 08/09/2005 at 1:35:51PM
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I much prefer the look of this.
Click Here
Reminds me of a game version of Seven. |
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Hedfix
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on 08/09/2005 at 1:41:10PM
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WWII is an excellent setting for games.
Shooting Nazi's is excellent.
They are the ultimate 'no qualms about shooting you Fritz' badguys. Proper full on evil with no chance of any politically correct bull getting in the way of killing 1000's of them in a game.
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Bonus
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on 08/09/2005 at 1:43:56PM
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Other than the fact that the game glorifies war and demeans the life-threatening job soldiers in the field have to carry out.
My main problem is that there are too many of them milking it as a cash cow, not against good games which further things.
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Hedfix
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on 08/09/2005 at 1:48:48PM
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Oh damn!
Better go have a go at GTA while your at it.
Glorifies killing innocent pedestrians... stealing cars...
How about WW2 games glorify people fighting fascism, extreme racism and genocide?
Oh but war's just always bad, perhaps if we'd just let Chamberlin get lied to for a few more years...
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Hedfix
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on 08/09/2005 at 1:51:50PM
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Bonus
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on 08/09/2005 at 1:54:48PM
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It's got nothing to do with the rights and wrongs of war itself but using it to milk money out of people and turning it into franchised games.
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Hedfix
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on 08/09/2005 at 1:56:26PM
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It was before you added the second sentence in the edit.
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on 08/09/2005 at 3:13:51PM
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Yeah, I wasn't sure if you'd got that point from earlier or not, so I edited it in :-).
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Hedfix
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on 08/09/2005 at 3:16:40PM
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It's kind of difficult to get 'the point' when it's not actually been written in the post you're reading.
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Bonus
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on 08/09/2005 at 3:18:26PM
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Bonus wrote:
> Do we really need more World War 2 games flooding the market and
> glorifying an era which saw millions killed, persecuted and treated
> like mere animals?
>
> I doubt it.
Simple really.
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Hedfix
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on 08/09/2005 at 3:20:26PM
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Then you wrote:
Bonus wrote:
> Other than the fact that the game glorifies war and demeans the
> life-threatening job soldiers in the field have to carry out.
Lesson: Don't widen your argument unless you can back it up.
Simple really.
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on 08/09/2005 at 3:25:37PM
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I'm not interested in your stupid remarks and thinking you know what you're talking about.
I can't be @rsed annoyed arguing about something as fundamental as whether or not the lives and deaths of innocent soldiers sent into battle should be glorified and the severe risk to their lives belittled by capitalist games companies such as EA etc. hoping to make a quick buck off of the climate of war we find ourselves in.
If you have a problem with that, go blow a goat, I don't care. Any teenager styled personal retort will be met with the dignified silence it deserves.
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Goatboy
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on 08/09/2005 at 3:27:50PM
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Yes we do need more WWII games that glorify war and death and smashed Nazis.
I'd buy a game called "Kill all Nazis" simply for the title - but when I get awesome goodness like in Call of Duty, Brothers in Arms, Hidden & Dangerous 2 and Allied Assault (from Normandy to the snow-levels only) then that's even better.
More. More GI slaughter games please.
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Goatboy
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on 08/09/2005 at 3:28:16PM
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Bonus wrote:
> If you have a problem with that, go blow a goat, I don't care.
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This one does.
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Hedfix
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on 08/09/2005 at 3:28:18PM
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Bonus wrote:
> I'm not interested in your stupid remarks and thinking you know what
> you're talking about.
>
> I can't be @rsed annoyed arguing about something as fundamental as
> whether or not the lives and deaths of innocent soldiers sent into
> battle should be glorified and the severe risk to their lives
> belittled by capitalist games companies such as EA etc. hoping to
> make a quick buck off of the climate of war we find ourselves in.
>
> If you have a problem with that, go blow a goat, I don't care. Any
> teenager styled personal retort will be met with the dignified
> silence it deserves.
And yet you admire EA so much...
*Shrugs*
Fly off the handle if you must because you tried to claim 'all wars are bad'.
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Bonus
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on 08/09/2005 at 3:30:43PM
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Bonus wrote:
> It's got nothing to do with the rights and wrongs of war itself but
> using it to milk money out of people and turning it into franchised
> games.[/B}
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Hedfix
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on 08/09/2005 at 3:31:45PM
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Bonus wrote:
> Bonus wrote:
> It's got nothing to do with the rights and wrongs of war itself
> but
> using it to milk money out of people and turning it into franchised
> games.[/B}
:D
Close tags 'mr programmer'.
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Hedfix
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on 08/09/2005 at 3:32:16PM
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Hedfix wrote:
> Then you wrote:
>
> Bonus wrote:
> Other than the fact that the game glorifies war and demeans the
> life-threatening job soldiers in the field have to carry out.
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>
> Lesson: Don't widen your argument unless you can back it up.
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> Simple really.
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Goatboy
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on 08/09/2005 at 3:32:28PM
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Bonus wrote:
> It's got nothing to do with the rights and wrongs of war itself but
> using it to milk money out of people and turning it into franchised
> games.
Yet you like the idea of a game that glorifies serial killers and uses them for the basis of entertainment, where the victims are generally female and innocents who are the victim of a murderer.
But wargames are bad?
Okaaaay
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Your Honour
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on 08/09/2005 at 3:32:47PM
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Hedfix wrote:
> Fly off the handle if you must because you tried to claim 'all wars
> are bad'.
I'm lost Hedfix. Are you trying to say all wars are good?
I can't quite see the point you're trying to make....
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Your Honour
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on 08/09/2005 at 3:34:02PM
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Hedfix wrote:
> Close tags 'mr programmer'.
And after the notable vote you tried to tell me you only liked to have discussions with intelligent people, and you thought most on here were below you?
*snigger*
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Hedfix
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on 08/09/2005 at 3:34:34PM
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Also you might want to complain about 1970 and 80's comics as there was plenty of WW2 exploitation going on there, I remember one story where the company of soldiers met dracula...
Then there's countless war films and much glorification of violence etc.
Where does it all end?
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monkey_man
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on 08/09/2005 at 3:36:03PM
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An 'Allo Allo' game would rule!
You are taking an explosive-laden gateau to a chateau when Lt. Gruber pulls up in his little tank:
"Gut evening, Rene, vould you like to cruise with me in my little tank?"
YES/NO?
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Goatboy
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on 08/09/2005 at 3:36:37PM
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Comedy Nazis!
Now there was an odd moment in televisual decency.
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Your Honour
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on 08/09/2005 at 3:36:38PM
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"I was just p!ssing by...."
Genius. Nail on head there MM.
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Hedfix
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on 08/09/2005 at 3:36:54PM
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Your Honour wrote:
> Hedfix wrote:
> Close tags 'mr programmer'.
>
> And after the notable vote you tried to tell me you only liked to
> have discussions with intelligent people, and you thought most on
> here were below you?
>
> *snigger*
Whilst trying to bring an interesting debate back on track? Why yes I did say that. I think I also said that if you give me an idiot I feel compelled to take the mick.
And there was no 'trying' about it: I told you.
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OddToe
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on 08/09/2005 at 3:37:14PM
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I'm going to try and complete the final levels of Brothers in Arms, and i'll let you lot carry on arguing.
This is one argument I can't find any neutral ground in as you are all being ass-tards.
Cheerio.
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Hedfix
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on 08/09/2005 at 3:37:49PM
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Your Honour wrote:
> Hedfix wrote:
> Fly off the handle if you must because you tried to claim 'all wars
> are bad'.
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> I'm lost Hedfix. Are you trying to say all wars are good?
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> I can't quite see the point you're trying to make....
Well I guess you'll have to read back a little further then won't you?
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Bonus
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on 08/09/2005 at 3:38:01PM
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Yep, spot on.
At the moment it's not a cash cow or bandwagon jumping as far as I'm aware.
I didn't say in the first place I was objected to all war games period. I just feel it's a step into franchise gaming which doesn't need to be made.
Football fine for franchising and milking. Fat plumber who gets a lift from magic mushrooms, ripe for milking.
I can't really see a disconnection between the increasing number of war games by American publishers and the current climate of Americans bombing anyone they don't like.
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Your Honour
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on 08/09/2005 at 3:38:28PM
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Hedfix wrote:
> Whilst trying to bring an interesting debate back on track? Why yes I
> did say that. I think I also said that if you give me an idiot I feel
> compelled to take the mick.
>
> And there was no 'trying' about it: I told you.
Well you really brought this dicussion back on track with that "mr programmer" comment didn't you? No childish school ground comments from you, no siree.
Well done. I take my hat off to you.
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monkey_man
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on 08/09/2005 at 3:38:49PM
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Goatboy wrote:
> Comedy Nazis!
> Now there was an odd moment in televisual decency.
It's one of my favourite shows, and dead cheap on Play too.
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Hedfix
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on 08/09/2005 at 3:39:33PM
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Bonus wrote:
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> I can't really see a disconnection between the increasing number of
> war games by American publishers and the current climate of Americans
> bombing anyone they don't like.
Shame they've been on the PC for years then.
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Your Honour
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on 08/09/2005 at 3:41:10PM
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Hedfix wrote:
> Well I guess you'll have to read back a little further then won't
> you?
I have done. The only point you've made is that you like WW2 games. Apart from that you've just tried to rip Bonus to shreds.
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