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"Jackpot!"
Regular on 17/09/2005 at 11:24:57PM
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Well, it's been a little while since I have been on these forums, and after browsing around, looking to see which games are going to hit the shelves, I thought I'd have a look for metal gear solid 4 footage. Needless to say, after a tedious hour of looking, I found a vid.
So here you go:
Click Here
Snake looks very, very old, but can that stop him from running, smoking and doing everything he has previously done...well, again? Nope, I don't think so.
Anyway, check out the vid, and enjoy a full 8 minutes of it!
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Chr1s
"The definitive tag"
Regular on 18/09/2005 at 12:17:57AM
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Blimey, Snake is getting on a bit.
That does look fantastic though.
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Tiltawhirl
Regular on 18/09/2005 at 1:04:51AM
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Snake looks like Chuck Norris.
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Vergil
"Jackpot!"
Regular on 18/09/2005 at 4:59:10AM
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Hehe, yea. The graphics look amazing, but then again this is ps3 graphics we are seeing after all. I for one will be buying a ps3, and probably even an xbox360, so this is just one game I'm looking forward to.
There are some pics about for devil may cry 4 now, and Dante really does look stupid in them, but I'm sure he'll be different in the game.
It's going to be amazing with how much power this cell chip can offer!
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Emitime
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Regular on 18/09/2005 at 9:33:27AM
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This really is the only games I would consider buying a PS3 for. And it happens to be my favourite series of all games.
Which is a bit gay, 'cause I don't see one game justifying buying a PS3.
*whimper*
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Asher
Regular on 18/09/2005 at 11:55:18AM
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error 403: Forbidden!
The server understood the request, but is refusing to fulfill it. Authorization will not help and the request SHOULD NOT be repeated.
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Mozzy
"Mozzy"
Regular on 18/09/2005 at 1:22:32PM
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Bonus
"gamertag = bonus uk"
Regular on 18/09/2005 at 2:15:53PM
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Vergil wrote:
> It's going to be amazing with how much power this cell chip can
> offer!
Why are you linking the way the games look to what the Cell chip is capable of processing?
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Vergil
"Jackpot!"
Regular on 18/09/2005 at 5:39:10PM
Edited: 18/9/05 17:46 Total Posts: 601
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Well, it's just an example really, as without the cell chip, I don't see how they could get a game looking that good. I mean look at the shading and textures! This is just in the early stages you know.
Oh, and to you two guys who it didn't load for, try and see if your internet cookies are interfering, and if not then I don't know what you can do.
For those of you who it did work for, you'll probably know that it opens straight with windows media player, so if it continues not to work for some of you, then maybe try and right click, then go to save target as.
I checked it out before I uploaded it, and it worked fine. :)
Edit: It seems their hosting has gone down today. Ok, try it here on the official site:
Click Here and click on the little projector icon in the top right hand corner. That will work, but it also seems their viewing server is down too, you'll have to try it later. :)
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Bonus
"gamertag = bonus uk"
Regular on 19/09/2005 at 12:43:19AM
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But the Cell processor has nothing to do with shading and texturing.
All of that is handled by shaders running on the Nvidia RSX graphics chip.
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Vergil
"Jackpot!"
Regular on 19/09/2005 at 1:03:43AM
Edited: 19/9/05 1:07 Total Posts: 601
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Ya, but I'm not here to argue man....without it, the whole system would probably be a lot slower.
I wasn't comparing it to the graphics to start with, I was just simply saying it has a lot to offer, without realising it would cause debate on here.
Now, I'm really wanting to talk about the game mate. The cell processor thing was off topic, but I just felt like mentioning it. I'm gonna get both the 360 and ps3, but the ps3 will be better, and mgs4 with those qualities just could not run that fast without the cell chip in my opinion.
Ok man?
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Bonus
"gamertag = bonus uk"
Regular on 19/09/2005 at 1:06:56AM
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Nope not alright because the qualities you talked about have nothing to do with the cell chip and everything to do with the Nvidia RSX :-).
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Vergil
"Jackpot!"
Regular on 19/09/2005 at 1:09:05AM
Edited: 19/9/05 1:10 Total Posts: 601
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Hmmm, well I didn't say it had anything to do with the graphics to start with mate. Please re-read it.
Edit:
Quoted from the bottom line of my second post:
"It's going to be amazing with how much power this cell chip can offer!"
No mention of graphics there. Tell me are you on drugs?
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Bonus
"gamertag = bonus uk"
Regular on 19/09/2005 at 1:11:32AM
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Vergil wrote:
> Well, it's just an example really, as without the cell chip, I don't
> see how they could get a game looking that good. I mean look at the
> shading and textures! This is just in the early stages you know.
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Bonus
"gamertag = bonus uk"
Regular on 19/09/2005 at 1:12:58AM
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Vergil wrote:
> Hehe, yea. The graphics look amazing, but then again this is ps3
> graphics we are seeing after all. I for one will be buying a ps3, and
> probably even an xbox360, so this is just one game I'm looking forward
> to.
>
> There are some pics about for devil may cry 4 now, and Dante really
> does look stupid in them, but I'm sure he'll be different in the
> game.
>
> It's going to be amazing with how much power this cell chip can
> offer!
Those comments are in the same post, the one about graphics and the power of the Cell.....
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Vergil
"Jackpot!"
Regular on 19/09/2005 at 1:13:51AM
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Well, you asked didn't you? That was also after you asked, so please stop being moany.
The cell chip simply makes the high level of texturing, gameplay, graphics etc all possible, so I'm not going to speak with you any further, as you don't appreciate the link I put up, and to be quite frank, I'm not here to argue, as I previously said.
Of course you'll have to get the last word in. ¬_¬
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Vergil
"Jackpot!"
Regular on 19/09/2005 at 1:14:39AM
Edited: 19/9/05 1:15 Total Posts: 601
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Bonus wrote:
> Those comments are in the same post, the one about graphics and the
> power of the Cell.....
Yes, but like I said, they are not associated, so please don't assume in future.
I hardly come on here, and it's because of people like you.
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Savatt78
"ATAT Supremo"
Regular on 19/09/2005 at 1:15:57AM
Total Posts: 584
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Oooooooooo, a handbag showdown, can I ref ? ;-)
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Vergil
"Jackpot!"
Regular on 19/09/2005 at 1:16:33AM
Edited: 19/9/05 1:17 Total Posts: 601
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Lol, if you must savatt. :)
I don't exactly have much to say though, other than what I have already explained, but it would be nice if bonus didn't assume so much.
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Bonus
"gamertag = bonus uk"
Regular on 19/09/2005 at 1:16:40AM
Total Posts: 468
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Only because you're wrong :-).
Level of texture detail etc has nothing to do with the Cell chip, just accept that I'm right and move on :-D.
If you'd said it makes realistic physics possible or it makes great AI possible or that it makes more complex camera systems possible I might have gone more lightly on trying to get you to see the light :-D.
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Vergil
"Jackpot!"
Regular on 19/09/2005 at 1:19:37AM
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Bonus wrote:
> Only because you're wrong :-).
>
> Level of texture detail etc has nothing to do with the Cell chip,
> just accept that I'm right and move on :-D.
Rather not, because you read it wrong, so you're in fact wrong. :)
> If you'd said it makes realistic physics possible or it makes great
> AI possible or that it makes more complex camera systems possible I
> might have gone more lightly on trying to get you to see the light
> :-D.
Whatever you say man, what I said about the cell chip was on a completely new line, and you didn't read it right, you just assumed. The cell chip might I add plays a big part in the ps3, but seeing as you don't understand, what's the point of explaining when you'll go off and assume again.
Woot, you're not right, bye bye. ¬_¬
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Bonus
"gamertag = bonus uk"
Regular on 19/09/2005 at 1:22:50AM
Total Posts: 468
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Vergil wrote:
> Hehe, yea. The graphics look amazing, but then again this is ps3
> graphics we are seeing after all. I for one will be buying a ps3, and
> probably even an xbox360, so this is just one game I'm looking forward
> to.
>
> There are some pics about for devil may cry 4 now, and Dante really
> does look stupid in them, but I'm sure he'll be different in the
> game.
>
> It's going to be amazing with how much power this cell chip can
> offer!
I'll just quote the post again which we are talking about and maybe someone can point out where you talk about anything other than the way things look and the standard of graphics on offer.
Then you can go read up a bit on computer graphics processing in a modern gaming set-up and then come back and explain to me why the Cell chip has anything to do with the quality of the graphics, then I'll accept I'm wrong :-D.
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Savatt78
"ATAT Supremo"
Regular on 19/09/2005 at 1:25:11AM
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Pfft, what kinda fight is that !? Come on guys I've been playing a poxy football manager game for hours, my brains turned into dribbling mush. I need entertainment !
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Sod it, maybe I'll just put a different game on.....
;-)
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Bonus
"gamertag = bonus uk"
Regular on 19/09/2005 at 1:27:04AM
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It wasn't a fight as far as I was concerned, I just pointed out that the Cell had nothing to do with the graphics on the videos being shown :-D.
Now, if you want a fight someone can say that PS3 games will look better than 360 games and we can have a right good rumble :-P.
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Savatt78
"ATAT Supremo"
Regular on 19/09/2005 at 1:32:01AM
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Consider it a tag team if that happens. ;-)
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Bonus
"gamertag = bonus uk"
Regular on 19/09/2005 at 1:35:19AM
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It's not likely to be long before some pillok comes along and says that the PS3 can do things graphically that the 360 can't, and they'll be laughed at in a very enthusiastic manner :-).
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Savatt78
"ATAT Supremo"
Regular on 19/09/2005 at 1:57:16AM
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Was watching some E3 DVDs over the last few days. Some of that Sony presentation just either made me cringe or laugh. There were a bunch of us watching it all - sat through like 30 mins or so of the usual Sony Excel / Powerpoint sales figures speech that they do in EVERY presentation. Then of course came the new duck demo after they showed the old PS2 one. Have to admit, I woulda loved to have been there just so I could have shouted "can you tell us the list of games on the PS2 that match the graphics on that duck demo ? Cause I still haven't found any !"
Then they started the disturbing demos containing computer generated women and commenting on how they look so real you could fall in love with them... Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. Yeah thanks Sony, looks like Nintendo have beaten you to the "toy" for the women, maybe you can make something for the guys to insert themselves into. Which brings me onto that bloody Eyedentity. A sad guy in his chair, having a conversation and chatting up these two computer generated girls. It was sad how into it the guy was - I was actually embarressed for him. Anyone who buys that and gets into it that seriously needs a large piece of lead piping wrapped round their head.
Then of course came all the "game" footage. And by that I mean movies which are about as in game as the duck demo. There was only one game that was really in game footage and it was an FPS which didn't really look that impressive at all. Can't remember the name of it now, but if someone starts whining I'm sure I can look up the name if I have to (and no its not Killzone 2). Suffice to say, the XBox 360 games looked better quality than that. So yeah, Kutaragi, be careful with the whole XBox 1.5 funny man comments - cause they might well come back to bite you in the nuts Kenneth.
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ssxpro
Regular on 19/09/2005 at 8:05:46AM
Total Posts: 221
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Savatt78 wrote:
> So yeah, Kutaragi, be careful with the whole XBox 1.5 funny man comments
Did he really say 1.5? That was very generous of him :)
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Also, the PS3 can do things graphically that the 360 can't, and they'll be laughed at in a very enthusiastic manner :-).
Though I'm not sure I was supposed to include the last bit.
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Bonus
"gamertag = bonus uk"
Regular on 19/09/2005 at 11:27:28AM
Total Posts: 468
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ssxpro wrote:
> Also, the PS3 can do things graphically that the 360 can't, and
> they'll be laughed at in a very enthusiastic manner :-).
>
> Though I'm not sure I was supposed to include the last bit.
Good, because by Nvidia's own admission the RSX chip is a shader model 3.0 compatable chip and the Xenos is bordering on WGF compatability which I'm guessing they'll call the shaders model 4.0 :-).
Nvidia also canned the Cg language because it's rubbish, but have resurrected it for the PS3 because Sony got stuck on the fact that shaders are written in HLSL these days, a thoroughly Microsoft language :-D.
Basically, the difference in graphical quality on the PS3 and the Xbox 360 is going to be like comparing The current generation of ATI and Nvidia cards for PCs. Nothing between them in terms of visual quality and little in terms of performance.
With shaders being programmable, it means that the graphics will be down to individual game developers abilities and not limited by the hardware until later in the generation when the PC cards are well out-performing the consoles capabilities.
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ssxpro
Regular on 19/09/2005 at 11:31:37AM
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Yes, but don't forget:
Bonus wrote:
> the PS3 can do things graphically that the 360 can't, and
> they'll be laughed at in a very enthusiastic manner :-).
and
ssxpro wrote:
> the PS3 can do things graphically that the 360 can't, and
> they'll be laughed at in a very enthusiastic manner :-).
We can't both be wrong!
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Bonus
"gamertag = bonus uk"
Regular on 19/09/2005 at 11:35:59AM
Total Posts: 468
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Bonus wrote:
> It's not likely to be long before some pillok comes along and says
> that
We can play join the sentences like join the dots :-D.
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Hedfix
"8==="
Regular on 19/09/2005 at 11:39:39AM
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Can I clunk your heads together like Moe?
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Bonus
"gamertag = bonus uk"
Regular on 19/09/2005 at 11:44:49AM
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Hedfix
"8==="
Regular on 19/09/2005 at 11:46:07AM
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I'll get Andrew Marr to do it then.
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ssxpro
Regular on 19/09/2005 at 12:45:51PM
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Heh! I do like the impersonation they do on Dead Ringers - arms on strings are perhaps a little insulting, but its shocking when you see the real man, when the camera is right... he really does.
Also,
Bonus wrote:
> PS3 will definitely have better graphics then X-Box 360, its as simple
> as joining the dots together.
Or we can just make stuff up :) It all just seemed more fun than the bizarre argument taking place before.
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Bonus
"gamertag = bonus uk"
Regular on 19/09/2005 at 12:54:47PM
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Very true :-).
I just need to remember that some people will never understand the hardware inside games consoles and will believe the marketting hype :-).
Anyway, I bet you didn't know that because the 360 is water cooled, you need to connect a hose to your kitchen sink......
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Emitime
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Regular on 19/09/2005 at 4:17:22PM
Total Posts: 1133
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But.
MGS4!
Why are you all not talking about how amazing it is?
WHY?
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Emitime
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Regular on 19/09/2005 at 4:27:22PM
Total Posts: 1133
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Ahaha.
Is it only me that thought the "And it's equipped with a new Cell Processor" followed by the robot falling over was Hideo hinting that the PS3 is crap?
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Bonus
"gamertag = bonus uk"
Regular on 19/09/2005 at 4:36:33PM
Total Posts: 468
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I'm not talking about how amazing MGS4 is because all I've seen of it is Snake running through a street in Mogadishu hiding from an army with technology stolen directly from The Empire.
Might be good when we see actual gameplay footage.
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fragout123
"Anger leads to hate"
Regular on 19/09/2005 at 4:39:36PM
Total Posts: 243
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Them pics are in-game footage, from the ps3. Read the interview on gamespot i think?
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