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Doom: Ressurection of Evil
"ATAT Supremo"
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on 22/10/2005 at 2:50:51PM
Total Posts: 584
Original Post:
Just found out that this just hit the shelves !  Think I might have to grab this.  Anyone picked it up ?  I'm guessing it still has online co-op.
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monkey_man
"Pouch Ape"
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on 24/10/2005 at 5:14:43PM
Total Posts: 1298
Love the Quake games, never played them on consoles though.

I lie.  Me and Snuggly and our crew once did a sneaky and rented one copy from Blockbuster (on his Mum's card, natch - we were only youngsters), then did the biro trick to get it running on two PS1's yayz!

Yes, we're hardcore crims.
Pandaemonium
"Lisan al-Gaib"
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on 24/10/2005 at 4:56:37PM
Total Posts: 872
monkey_man wrote:
> Is the multiplayer on any of the Doom 3 games fun to play?

If you like Quake 3 multiplayer, this isn't too far off.
J Nash
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on 24/10/2005 at 3:10:46PM
Total Posts: 626
Hedfix wrote: 
> I meant ID are dumb for having it need the original with so many
> popluar game 'expansions' being playable straight out the box without
> the original game.

I think most PC expansions require the orignals.
Hedfix
"8==="
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on 24/10/2005 at 2:58:16PM
Total Posts: 8820
Yep.

It's very much like the original doom multiplayer except with modern FPS conventions (like being able to look around properly instead of just facing ahead).
monkey_man
"Pouch Ape"
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on 24/10/2005 at 2:54:55PM
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Is the multiplayer on any of the Doom 3 games fun to play?
Pandaemonium
"Lisan al-Gaib"
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on 24/10/2005 at 2:38:03PM
Total Posts: 872
English Redneck wrote:
> Well, I can name one.  Steel Battalion:  Line of Contact.  ;-)  You
> had to have the original game with the controller to play the follow
> up.  Not quite the same as the expansion pack thing, but still
> forcing people to buy another game initially.  ;-)

Wasn't that the game with the ridiculous (and expensive) mech style controller? You're right, it's not the same as the expansion pack thing.
English Rednec...
"ATAT Supremo"
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on 24/10/2005 at 2:11:04PM
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Well, I can name one.  Steel Battalion:  Line of Contact.  ;-)  You had to have the original game with the controller to play the follow up.  Not quite the same as the expansion pack thing, but still forcing people to buy another game initially.  ;-)
Pandaemonium
"Lisan al-Gaib"
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on 24/10/2005 at 1:54:23PM
Total Posts: 872
Hedfix wrote:
> I meant ID are dumb for having it need the original with so many
> popluar game 'expansions' being playable straight out the box without
> the original game.
>
> Although I suppose you get it all in one package it minimises sales
> and forces people who've sold the original to buy it agai if they
> want to play the expansion.

Yet, I don't quite know what's the more profitable way to be honest. An expansion pack requiring you to own the original is limiting sales to the people that own that. A stand alone at the cheaper price opens the market up substantially.

I get the impression it was easier to make the PC an expansion, whereas the Xbox version has basically been re-written, and the structure will have been changed. Hence, a stand alone product is far easier to produce. Plus as you mention, I can't think of a single console game requiring an original title. :D
Hedfix
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on 24/10/2005 at 1:42:43PM
Edited: 24/10/05 13:42
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and the co-op's supposed to be much shoter than the single-player.

Me and Tilt finished in 2 evenings worth of play, seemed to only take about 5 hours.
Hedfix
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on 24/10/2005 at 1:40:58PM
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I have Doom 3, I'll get Res when I'm finished with Serious Sam 2.
English Rednec...
"ATAT Supremo"
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on 24/10/2005 at 1:40:12PM
Total Posts: 584
Doom 3 is probably larger.  The single player has something like 45 levels in it.  Even if you beat it in co-op, its worth playing through the single player because it has more atmosphere and you get the story elements and cut scenes.
monkey_man
"Pouch Ape"
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on 24/10/2005 at 1:34:56PM
Edited: 24/10/05 13:40
Total Posts: 1298
Doom 3 is £18.99 on Amazon.  Res of Evil is couple of quid lower.

Aha, just got it used for £14.49 including delivery from Amazon Marketplace.  Not bad, eh?  Still getting the res of evil pack though.
Hedfix
"8==="
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on 24/10/2005 at 1:33:22PM
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I wasn't being cheeky. :)

I meant ID are dumb for having it need the original with so many popluar game 'expansions' being playable straight out the box without the original game.

Although I suppose you get it all in one package it minimises sales and forces people who've sold the original to buy it agai if they want to play the expansion.
Pandaemonium
"Lisan al-Gaib"
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on 24/10/2005 at 1:28:24PM
Edited: 24/10/05 13:28
Total Posts: 872
Hedfix wrote:
> Pandaemonium wrote:
>
> No. You need Doom3.
>
> Hmmmm, about 5 years ago that wouldn't have been dumb.

Sorry. I wasn't clear. PC res of evil needs the original Doom3. I highly doubt the Xbox version will need it.
monkey_man
"Pouch Ape"
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on 24/10/2005 at 1:25:41PM
Total Posts: 1298
Might get Doom 3 anyway, it looks alright.
Hedfix
"8==="
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on 24/10/2005 at 1:23:16PM
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monkey_man wrote:
>
> EDIT: Because I haven't found anywhere that says you need the
> original.

Have any console games ever done this?

Anyway I think the site selling it to you would have to say that the original was required to play the game if it was indeed the case.
Hedfix
"8==="
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on 24/10/2005 at 1:21:54PM
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Pandaemonium wrote:
>
> No. You need Doom3.

Hmmmm, about 5 years ago that wouldn't have been dumb.
monkey_man
"Pouch Ape"
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on 24/10/2005 at 1:11:47PM
Edited: 24/10/05 13:12
Total Posts: 1298
The Xbox version is standalone, yeah? Right? God tell me it's true!

EDIT: Because I haven't found anywhere that says you need the original.
Pandaemonium
"Lisan al-Gaib"
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on 24/10/2005 at 1:08:54PM
Total Posts: 872
Hedfix wrote:
> Isn't that 'expansion pack' a stand-alone title too (ie you don't need
> the original game to play it?)

No. You need Doom3.
English Rednec...
"ATAT Supremo"
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on 23/10/2005 at 12:17:40PM
Total Posts: 584
The 8 player capture the flag could be fun.  :-)
monkey_man
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on 23/10/2005 at 11:44:27AM
Total Posts: 1298
Yo, I'm gonna get this - play.com don't mention co-op mode, but do say about team deathmatch and deathmatch and stuff.

Cheap, nice.
English Rednec...
"ATAT Supremo"
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on 22/10/2005 at 9:56:16PM
Total Posts: 584
Well lets face it, expansion packs have always been a money making scheme.  ;-)  Any title could be stand alone, but why do that when you can double your intake and force the gits to get the original too.  :-)
Hedfix
"8==="
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on 22/10/2005 at 9:54:25PM
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I think most of them are now to maximise sales.
English Rednec...
"ATAT Supremo"
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on 22/10/2005 at 9:49:16PM
Total Posts: 584
Dunno, never tried it.  Wouldn't be surprised if it were stand alone though.
Hedfix
"8==="
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on 22/10/2005 at 9:21:01PM
Total Posts: 8820
Isn't that 'expansion pack' a stand-alone title too (ie you don't need the original game to play it?)
English Rednec...
"ATAT Supremo"
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on 22/10/2005 at 9:12:01PM
Total Posts: 584
Well yeah, but its a port of an expansion pack.  ;-)
Hedfix
"8==="
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on 22/10/2005 at 8:46:53PM
Total Posts: 8820
It's not an expansion pack.

It's a stand-alone title.
English Rednec...
"ATAT Supremo"
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on 22/10/2005 at 8:43:18PM
Total Posts: 584
Gwizz - is the co-op still in the expansion pack ?  I ordered it today for 14.99.  :-)
Gwizz
"Im a Daddy :-)"
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on 22/10/2005 at 8:37:54PM
Total Posts: 172
I picked this up friday, it great so far. It starts out much faster then the last game and has the torch and hand gun as one which I think is better.

Also got lost chapters for the xbox, after being told that it was nerver going to be released for xbox in one game shop, I went round the corner and got a copy! The guys face was a picture and to my surprise he then handed the £10 I bet him (that I cound get a copy). You have to start again so havent found much new stuff yet.....
English Rednec...
"ATAT Supremo"
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on 22/10/2005 at 3:02:41PM
Total Posts: 584
No you don't need the original as far as I know.
Del Rogeo
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on 22/10/2005 at 2:59:12PM
Total Posts: 170
Do you have to have the original Doom game to play it?

Because I sold it about two weeks ago :-(
English Rednec...
"ATAT Supremo"
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on 22/10/2005 at 2:50:51PM
Total Posts: 584
Just found out that this just hit the shelves !  Think I might have to grab this.  Anyone picked it up ?  I'm guessing it still has online co-op.
 
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